I’m really worried that the liberals really are going to vote for a genuine genocide-supporter.
As opposed to the other genocide-supporter that’s also a fascist racist?
Primaries and the rest of the year are for voting for and supporting the best possible candidates. Elections are for playing damage control and voting for the least worst option.
Don’t let a lack of perfection be an excuse for choose Worse over Better.
No, you don’t vote for genocide-supporters period. I am appalled that is a controversial opinion.
Supporting a genocide is not “Lack of perfection”. It’s an abundance of evil
In the real world, people will vote in their own self interest. If you’re queer, trans, have dark skin, are female, or are an ally to those groups, not voting for Biden is functionally equivalent to voting for the orange turd who will support and encourage crimes against them.
The harm reduction argument doesn’t work if for the past 4 years individual rights have constantly deteriorated.
Frame it however you want but there’s still merit in voting for the guy who doesn’t actively want to destroy you.
If Biden reschedules (or even better legalizes — I know this is a larger challenge legally) cannabis and takes a harder stance against Israel, I think he would win most of the key states he needs to win the election. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, Arizona, and to a lesser degree Georgia will determine this election. The rest of the states are locked in. A 1% swing can mean the difference to prevent a dictatorship.
Don’t underestimate domestic pro-Israel agents’ ability to assassinate a US politician’s political career. Lemmy is not the American media, and the latter is still largely supporting Israel’s campaign.
Wow that’s some straight up antisemitism right there. Sorry, but there isn’t some secret Jewish Cabal controlling the world.
Go outside and touch some grass, ok?
Sigh.
Saying there’s a strong pro-Israel lobby is not antisemitism.
Sigh.
Promoting conspiracy theories involving Jews being puppet masters that control your government is textbook Goebbels kind of shit.
They weren’t claiming that jews are puppet master overlords that control our governments
They were claiming that Israel has a strong political lobby that can do a lot of political damage to politicians that don’t align themselves with Israel.
They do this by doing exactly what you’re doing. Claiming or implying that anybody against Israel or the pro-Israel lobby is an antisemite.
I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.
I’ll remind you that “jewish people” and “Israel” are not the same thing.
You need to tell that to the people that are shootiing at synogogues, trying to burn down jewish businesses. There is a Pro-Palestinian movement in my city that are protesting a Jewish community instead of protesting the Israeli consulate that’s in this city. Maybe tell them they should be protesting the consulate not the jewish communtiy because they don’t seem as enlightened as you are to understand the distinction between Israel and Jews in other countries.
But you aren’t going to do that, are you? Could upset your friends in your movement if you criticize their actions.
The Palestinian movement has proven the need for a group to lobby for the well being of Jews in the US. If you won’t speak out against the antisemitic activity that’s occurring in the Palestinian movement because you’re too busy spreading conspiracy theories on the internet, then yeah there needs to be some group that’s able to talk about these issues to those in power that are able to protect communities that are in danger from your allies in your movement.
Hi there. Jewish person here. The people you are accusing of being antisemitic are 100% right. AIPAC has controlled the American political stance on Israel for decades.
If you care about American Jews, stop associating them with Israel. That is what is getting us harassed and attacked, being automatically associated with Israel.
Yeah this is the internet and I can claim that I’m a Palestinian that thinks that Netanyahu is completely in the right. Which proves what exactly?
Also note that racism towards “Cosmopolitan Jews” was a way a certain group used as a gateway for people that weren’t willing to be antisemitic towards all Jews. But we know how that ended.
So today it’s considered to be good and correct to hate “zionist jews” by those who would normally think antismeitsm is wrong. Meanwhile in my city there’s an Israeli consullate, but the protesters don’t go there, they protest in the middle of a Jewish community, and have attempted to burn down Jewish businesses. While you’re distinguishing between “
cosmopolitanzionist jews” and other jews, there are many people in the Palestinian movement who are not.We need to stop looking the other way about what this is really about. An antisemitic movement that wants to restore the ethnic makeup of a geographic area to the way it was in a history book by the use of extreme violence. “Blood and soil”, “from the river to the sea” same shit different century.
I’m not a Jew but my grandfather fought in a war against people that did the same things the Palestinian movement is doing right now. Jews went along with the movement my grandfather fought against too, you know. So the same bullshit from a century ago and how it affected my grandfather means a bit more than your unverifiable claims about being a jew. This ain’t about you, this is about fascists trying to burn down Jewish businesses in the city I live in after my grandfather sacrificed a lot to fight against that kind of evil.
Now go on and make excuses for the violent actions of the fascists in your movement like a good useful idiot.
You are welcome to look at my comment history and see how many other times I have talked about being Jewish.
I really don’t care. There were Jews that joined the Nazi party. Historically being Jewish hasn’t exactly been a prophylactic against being a part of antisemitic movements. You may think you can win over the violent elements in a movement to only hate a subset of Jews so you’ll be fine. But when there’s a night of the long knives you find out only the opinions of those with the knives really count in these kinds of movements. And they aren’t going to care that you were “one of the good ones” when the knives come out.
They already don’t seem to care what kind of Jew goes to the synagogues they shoot at.
So first I’m not a Jew and now I’m a Jewish Nazi?
The only sane comment in this entire thead.
Biden wants to reschedule and decimalize not legalize
that means state by state determination
fifty different “united” states each with differing laws and opinions such as wages, what healthcare you are allowed and how it will be funded, abortion laws, immigration laws, what substances are legal or illegal or otherwise, etcetera
if you are on the wrong side of the state line then you will have less rights then your neighboring state
to go a step further there are already cities in the US where half the city has either medical use and or recreational use and the other half is strictly illegal or a combination there of such as half medical and half medical/ recreational and yes some tax and revenue the government receives from the cannabis industry goes towards prosecution of cannabis users in illegal places
Biden is only doing this for votes and knows the average voter will not know otherwise and we the people deserve better than a sham
These kind of laws and policies lessens consumer protections regarding cannabis while bolstering corporate cannabis and muddying the water further making the dream of legalization even more of a pipe dream
JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED
