I’m honestly not sure why he doesn’t just have all of SCOTUS murdered, and if anyone in Congress moves against him, have then eliminated as well. Do Trump in, whole he’s at it. Full on blood bath.

Tell me why not?

Wages not tracking with costs and inflation is certainly a problem; corporate America and, specifically, Wall Street investors reaping the most benefits from growth is a cancerous tumor that will sink the country if not fixed. However, trade jobs are essential to the country. Not everyone gets their mommy to but them a car and pay for their degree. Not everyone wants to go to college, get a white collar job, and sit in a cubicle for the rest of their lives.

If you’re not getting paid enough, Unionize.

I make no excuses. We’ve seen what Trump presidencies look like; the last was bumbling and did massive damage to civil rights, the next won’t be. Project 2025 ensures that.

Biden’s biggest crime has been supporting Israel. His presidency was categorically and measurably better for the US than Trump’s. Aside from Palestine, he wasn’t a bad president. Now, if Trump wasn’t saying that Israel isn’t going far enough; if Trump were supporting Palestine, then there’d be something to talk about. But he isn’t, and he did terrible things to our country while in charge, and should never be allowed near the White House again.

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. But I also want a president who’s not just going to take amphetamines so he can perform well past his bed time.

I’m not saying either of these guys is my first choice. I’m just saying that it was late, Biden had a cold, and he was probably taking Nyquil or something - he would want to be up there sneezing and blowing his nose. If you compare his performance in the debate to his speech in N Carolina, he certainly wasn’t at his peak. Good knows how much cocaine Trump had snorted before the debate.

Someone pointed out, the debate was scheduled for 9pm, with two men over 70. I’m in my 50’s, and I’m no good after 8pm. This should have been held in the morning.

The debate was poorly arranged, and once again Biden’s incompetent staff contributed by letting it happen.

The top YouTube comment hit the nail on the head, though: the problem is that 49 million people didn’t watch the Carolina rally.

Anybody following this able to give a balanced summary? I find The Hill to tend right-leaning and don’t much trust their analysis.

The Hill seems to be placing the defeat of Bowman on his stance against the genocide in Palestine, which is becoming a sort of dog-whistle saying, “stand against the invasion of Palestine, and this is what happens to you.” It may in this case be true; I can believe it, but I don’t trust The Hill to not be constructing a narrative.

Mm hmm… Hmmm hmmm… Wait

And the military is just sitting on its hands.

what? What should the military be doing?

That last one is the biggest goddamn cherry I’ve ever seen on top.

I get as frustrated as anyone else at the often glacial pace of justice. I’ve been told that it’s all in a good cause, that slow means careful and the best chance at just outcomes.

While I mostly believe this, my doubts stem from the fact that “justice” seems to be awfully stern and quick when the accused is poor, or a minority, and seems to only really becomes slow and careful when the rich, and especially the rich white, are accused. And the rich get to live in “house arrest” while the system cautiously, and protractedly, protects their rights. I have a difficult time reconciling that.

PS, I know you’re talking about Crowder, not the public. It just got me thinking.

Thank you.

Well, shit. I never thought I’d see the day something like this made progress in a 1st world (economically; I know there are connotations, but I don’t know a better, more PC term) country.

Go (South) Australia!

They’re still also statistically pretty young compared to other rich people who got wealthy in their young adulthood. And male. Give young men access to a bunch of money, and the results tend to not be pretty. Day what you will about old men, if they’re reaching peak income near or after 50, they’ve already blown the worst of their testosterone out of their systems - that still leaves ego, which is its own problem, but suddenly coming into money in your youth I believe badly skews your perspective of reality. The culture they obtained wealth in is also important: guys (and gals) who gain sudden wealth in their youth through, say, competitive snowboarding are also going to have a skewed perspective, but their peer group and the lack of the negative influence of Wall Street and investors mitigate the worst of the effects.

I think you have to cut off one of your fingers every time that happens, out something.

Should the Secret Service be a consideration?

Let’s say Trump brutally tortured and sexually abused some pre-teens in a basement in Texas, was tried and convicted and given a death sentance. Does the fact that hrs under the protection of the Secret Service have any bearing on the judgment? Should it?

That said, you’re probably right. He’ll have to spend a couple of years playing golf at Mar-a-Lago, a truly unjust and extreme punishment 🙄

Oh yeah. We are super sensitive about our subs.

I once worked for a compny that subcontracted out to the government and to comanies contracting with the government. We were bidding on a job working with some company who was making sonar systems for the nuclear subs, and I was brought along to basically represent the dev team to work on the (a?) software component. I had to get a secret security clearance, which - if you haven’t been through this - is a dozen or so pages of the last decade of everything about your life: every address you’ve lived at; a list of people and contact information who’ve known you for that entire time and who will vouch for you; every job you’ve held and contact info for the companies… everything except an actual anal probe. And remember, I had to do this just to get into the building to talk to these people. I mean, maybe not normally, but they weren’t going to waste their time talking to me if I didn’t have the clearance. Then when I got there, it had the craziest security I’d ever seen: an outside badge door, so you had to call someone to get you, a little room with a security guard station, then another secure door the security guys had to open. And then there were badge doors in the building for different sections.

The job sounded fun: I was told one phase of testing required the developers to go on a test cruise, to answer questions and debug while underway; getting to ride in a nuclear sub (without having to join the Navy) might have been worth suffering my claustrophobia and massive distrust of submarines in general. But we didn’t win the bid, and I never got to use that security clearance that was such a massive PITA to get.

Anyway, it made me very conscious of just how serious the US takes submarine security. This guy, I expect, will disappear into an oubliette and never be heard from again.

I didn’t read the article; the CBS news site isn’t the worst, but it employs some of the common, horrible site design patterns, and is painful to read.

However: 34 counts. Each with a maximum possible 4 years incarceration sentence. It increases the odds of some jail time, for at least one or two counts.

The judge is said to be taking a lot of factors into consideration; I hope one is them is the unusually unanimous verdict on such a large number of counts.

I can’t stop giggling at the thought: 34 counts, each with a maximum 4 year penalty.

I know, I know… no judge is going to issue the maximum penalty on each of those counts, especially in this case. But a man can dream.

136 years. happy sigh

Really? Because of anybody could benefit from some years in prison, it would be Trump.

OTOH, Hitler spent time in prison, and look how he turned out.

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

Attributed (but debated) to Samuel Clemens.