• OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    If you mean all politicians, then I agree with you. It’s a little naive to think that good and evil is separated along party lines.

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      8 months ago

      I wouldn’t classify Democrats as good. They are a mixed bag. Republicans though I feel comfortable classifying as evil. Because of their policy of loyalty to the party above all else and the unity with which they vote even the “not so bad” ones are complicit and aid the worst of them. The parties are not the same. Republicans are objectively worse. They have been for decades.

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        8 months ago

        Republicans are more unified because their base is more homogeneous compared to Democrats. Republicans basically make up the single biggest demographic in the country, and Democrats are everyone else. Imagine if half of the country were LGBT? They would be able to have their own political party, and would be able to focus on issues specific to their demographic with little concern for other demographics. Democrats biggest challenge is in somehow catering to such a wide variety of interests that don’t necessarily align. They have to become more tolerant and accepting of different interests, but there is also a tendency to focus on the one thing they all have in common, which is their political enemy. In that way, Republicans are the only acceptable “bad guys”, and everyone on their team is “good”. It’s tribalism. Republicans do it as well in a slightly different way, more outwardly focused. It’s part of human nature and the only way to fight it is to be aware. Of course politicians eagerly embrace and use this dark aspect of humanity as much as they can get away with.

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          8 months ago

          No that’s not the case. Republicans are the bad guys on account of what they do. Democrats cast other Democrats as bad guys plenty so your assessment doesn’t match reality. Additionally Democrats regularly compromise and work with Republicans while the reverse hardly ever happens so it’s not that Republicans are just the default political enemy, it is based on the specific issues. It just so happens that most things republicans want span from dumb to evil. Republican unity is not a demographic thing, at least not in the framing that you are talking. It’s a philosophy of blind loyalty.

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            8 months ago

            I guess I don’t know what to say then, besides that I strongly disagree. I find it strange that it’s so easy for people to dismiss others as “bad” people and don’t feel any obligation to try to understand them. For me, the world isn’t so black and white as that.

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              8 months ago

              That’s ok. Take some comfort in that my take has developed over a long period of time and that I originally counted myself as a centrist/moderate Republican. Also don’t mistake my view as not allowing for many shades of gray. My honest assessment of the modern Republican party is that they had flown past every gradient in a race to be as extreme and partisan as possible. McCain was the last decent Republican and even he compromised his integrity for the sake of the party. Also I have tried to understand republicans but they have always failed to coherently reconcile what they claim to believe in with what they do politically.