National Christians

NatC for short.

Well, the biggest problem with this situation and using the term “innocent” is that the vast majority of Gazans support Hamas and supported the attack on Oct 7th.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/#:~:text=JERUSALEM%2C Dec 13 (Reuters),respected Palestinian polling institute found.

72% support for the attack.

I don’t consider those people innocent.

So they’re pretty much on target.

Life isn’t fair.

There isn’t some sort of right to fairness.

What’s the diplomatic solution? Give in to terrorists and let them attack again?

That’s exactly what happened in Ukraine with Crimea and we’ve all seen how that turned out.

These groups both want the same land. Somebody has to not get their way.

What a fucking click bait title.

When you attack someone stronger than you, it usually does not end well. They can try, but there will be further consequences.

It took a few hundred thousand middle eastern civilians dying after 9/11 before anyone started complaining and even that did not lead to this level of protest.

People are ok with violence if its their country that has been attacked.

Do I should let them take my family with no consequence because they’re using human shields?

No, my side is strong enough to get them back. Screw the terrorists and those that harbour them. They can try to retaliate, and they can die until they won’t fight back anymore.

People these days seem to think there’s a diplomatic solution for everything. They need to go read a nonfiction history book, because they are currently in the fiction section.

To me, if my children or wife had been taken hostage. There would be no limit to the ratio I would be willing to accept to get them back.

Hamas still has hostages captured that day they are tying to use for negotiations.

The difference between my opinion and yours is that you consider it incidental murder, while I consider it a war that Palestinians are losing. War kills people, and acceptable casualties (enemy, friendly, and even innocents) are literally part of the calculations made by every single country that has ever participated in a war.

Innocents don’t murder journalists…

Hamas killed four Israeli journalists on Oct 7th during the attacks.

“but Israel is doing it worse”

How many people are they allowed to kill in retaliation for Oct 7th? Zero? 1:1? 10:1?

No country in the world would get attacked and not retaliate if they had the means.

“no proof of an illicit deal”

The money IS the proof of the illicit deal, they gave him money when there was no legal or reasonable reason to give him money.

“We wanted to just give away money” isn’t a legal reason for anyone who isn’t recording for a you tube channel at this point.

What do people hope to get out of watching an MMA fight?

Same answer here, they’re just looking for entertainment. They have a man they like in the ring, and they’re hoping he throws a few good punches at that other bad guy.

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Richest country in the world…

Sure.

How is she supposed to manipulate it for the benefit of her god if she does that?

Did he miss any of the 7 deadly sins? That looks like a fairly extensive list.

You haven’t seen a history book before, have you??

Genocide has been accepted since before even the old testament when God himself decided to do it a few times. There is even specific passages about killing civilians including babies.

Kind of a weak argument, we currently ignore the first part almost entirely from a legal perspective, I don’t remember the last time a child or parent got in trouble for a kid sneaking booze under age. They get in trouble for the things they do while drunk, but not the drinking itself. The parents get talked to, but unless they bought them the alcohol there’s no repercussions.

As for the the weddings, they are still legal with no effective minimum age in 4 US states (and there are multiple marriages a year as young as 12) and about half the states only restrict it to age 16+

Then morally don’t do it yourself and leave everyone else to make their own decisions.

Why do so many people care about what other people do to their own bodies?

Insurrection