Just FYI I use ZHA and the lights work with HA off.

If it was that simple why are they being removed by governments?

New one is way better, the old ones were alright but borderline programmer art level

Problem with the Frigate recommended ones is they are all currently being removed from government offices worldwide for security reasons. I mean, if you don’t care about that then there’s lots of cheap cameras going for auction…

My Hue lights continue to work when homeassistant is off, isn’t that a normal ZigBee feature? The switches are still connected to the lights.