Eldritch

Peak trump voter

Part of it is that there shouldn’t be nation wide parties. No single party could ever adequately represent an entire nation. Let alone a single state. And as we can see, none of them do.

When you keep adding more and more layers, town representatives, under county representatives, under district representatives, under state representatives, under federal representatives. Each more divorced from those they’re supposed to represent. Each with more power, power which corrupts more. It’s insanity to think it can be fixed by some new, equally out of touch national force. Or at least that’s the anarchists view.

For my money we need to jettesen the federal and most state level representatives completely. Having groups answerable to their constituents, working with other similarly answerable groups. This is the way. We’ll die waiting for any national party to save us. Get with your neighbors, build the local government you wish to see. Encourage others to do the same. Work against the national parties where you can. Show solidarity with the group most likely to beat the worst candidates, even if they happen to be part of a national party.

I know for instance there are some great local elected green party endorsed representatives in blue states. But the national green party is a joke. They spent the last election attacking the one candidate that stood a chance of beating trump. Knowing full well they couldn’t. Which combined with all the Democrats self inflicted wounds gave trump a clear path to end all democracy. Which makes the national green party worse than the national Democrats in my book.

For state and local offices? If you are in a blue state likely several. But in red States like here no. Worse they are wanting to gerrymander to get rid of the few non Republicans were have here.

At the national level our only hope is primarying Democrats to force a non corporate puppet. There is no math in presidential elections that allow 3rd parties to contribute to anything useful. If we have elections again. We need solidarity whoever the candidate is to keep the fascists from office again. But a constant push to make national leadership irrelevant will still be needed.

Or route all traffic through a VPN.

Not enough money for big bird. But money to spare for a fascist private jet. Tragic

100%. It was never about saving money Etc. They will literally burn money of it allows them to persue their bigotry.

Hey now, that’s casting aspersions on his asparagus.

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If only we could have had a test drive of sorts before. That actual news media could have reported on. Instead of sane washing him. If only.

Sadly that is absolutely what it means. So indoctrinated that they can’t even see it. I still love PBS and NPR in general. But it’s undeniable how much worse they’ve gotten trying to appeal to people who want nothing to do with them.

Yep RIP tides are no laughing matter. I was lucky enough when it happened to me I just ended up several hundred feet down the beach. Once you are in it. It can be way harder to get out than a lot of people might think.

Money will definitely present an obstacle. But the fact mamdami is the parties candidate carries plenty weight itself. Outside the primaries people are largely clueless. Name recognition will count for something. Though I don’t think Cuomo’s is that good. IIRC he’s dirtied of plenty. So hopefully party recognition will outweigh.

Fair enough. Though in 50 years of watching this I don’t think I’ve ever seen it used that way? Definitionally. In a Democratic primary for the Democratic party. Everyone is blue no matter who. Now the establishment definitely loathes being challenged. Which is all more reason to do it.

Blue no matter who generally only means anything in the general. All the better now that actual people can use it against the party establishment for once. And I would argue that any member of the establishment or New York Democratic party leadership who would vote for anyone other than the parties candidate, mondami. Should be ousted from leadership. Any leadership that doesn’t have the courage of conviction for the Party’s candidate. Certainly doesn’t represent that party.

They aren’t one of the names I generally associate with that group. So you are probably right.

Is it almost exclusively applied to establishments Dems because that’s who runs the most often? Or is there some real different dichotomy? Don’t get me wrong Cuomo can go fuck himself with a sideways baseball bat. Wanting to have it both ways he’s going to fight for the worst possible outcome.

Plenty of genuine people got a lot of venom and vitrial in 2024 calling for solidarity against the fascists. And still do. From many of the people posting lower down below this article. Though not OP. I don’t recall them being part of that group. But blue no matter who cuts both ways. And this time Como ain’t the blue candidate and should really sit the fuck out and take the clue. This time people will actually be able to vote blue no matter who and hopefully feel good about it for once. Since it isn’t Como or Adams.

Oh. Well there are a number posting here that aren’t doing it as a bit. But as long as Quomo gets fucked I don’t care.

Absolutely blue no matter who was about solidarity against the fascists. Mamdami is the blue this time. Cuomo just another self serving vote splitting fascist enabler. So yes, blue (Democrats) no matter who (especially because mamdami seems like a great candidate this time).

I know 3rd parties actually have a presence in NY. AOC having come from them. Are there any polling close to either of the two major parties in the mayors race? And if not, why shouldn’t people vote blue this time. Especially seeing as it’s mamdami? Who should you have them vote for.

Going by the primary, and I definitely say we should you are correct. Only time will tell. Honestly I hope Cuomo splits the corrupt Republican vote. They will have so many highly corrupt people running in this election. I hope new York Democrats can stay focused enough to solidly vote for the Democratic nominee. And seeing that AOC is from the area I’d say that’s a good sign.

Blue no matter who, in this case would mean Mamdami. He is the Democratic primary winner. So yes. I’m pretty sure almost all of them would be. What did you think blue no matter who meant? It’s all about keeping someone even worse like a republican from winning the seat.

I can’t speak for new york, but where I am. Third parties are non-existent realistically. I’m sure New York City in particular has a heavy Democratic turnout. Though maybe they actually have some viable third parties. But in this case all these corrupt ghouls aligning against mamdani are doing their best to split the vote for the blue so the Republican can win. I think Democrats would be wise in this instance to vote blue no matter who. Though especially because it’s mamdani this time. That’s all blue no matter who really meant. Standing in solidarity against the fascist. If we had done it in 2024 we would be in a much better position now.

Strictly speaking they aren’t our enemies. Mentally ill as fuck? Absolutely. But our enemy is the one that manipulates these people. Stirring up their mental illness and turning them on us. Believe me our enemy is watching comfortably as we injure ourselves. Republicans eagerly egging it on as it suits their own ends. And Democrats not really caring to do enough about it.