Yea and then you have a 50 year old like Trudeau and they all say he’s too young

I think this is the most likely outcome. Its all theater and there is some legal poison pill that the defense gets use last minute

If Donnie fires back with “I AM THE LAW” then I think he would win the next election

Don’t be rude. Acting as if you’re more enlightened can be a defense mechanism. People aren’t stupid because they lean right on issues. Most people on the right are business owners and have figured enough out in life to become fairly successful.

You have confused your friends with a random sample of the population

Reread what you’re implying vs who I said I would ask and think about who is confused about a random sample. It seems you are under the impression I’m asking people I hang out with when that was never said.

If I go ask ten people what they think about any wedge issue, majority of them will give right wing talking points even if they don’t lean right.

I disagree. Its so much bigger than arguing with randoms online. Its about average opinion of average people.

They lack the morality to care.

And where is the morality in letting a political party without morals gain power. When was the last time that Clark Kent was a relevant archetype. The antihero is king now. But also is it real morals when there isn’t really any rules beyond social norms. All of them are corrupt regardless. I wouldn’t call some of the Democrats moral actors. They just attempt to act more as adults.

They have the vast majority of the money and with it a greater loudspeaker.

But the left also has money but why has the right used it to secure so many public areas. Like all their civil actions had so much funding. I remember individuals donating millions to the clownvoy. Charlie Kirk is successful becoming a millionaire as a college drop out who opened a political shit throwing business and introducing youth on campuses around the country to people like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. What was the left doing?

Selling fear and rage porn and lies and half-truths will always be easier than conveying the complexity and nuance of truth and reality.

Sure, but again who gives two shits about truths and reality. We all went nuts for Plato’s allegory of the cave for a few months a while ago for a reason. Truths don’t matter, but truth does. The Republicans win because they understand this. And as I get older I think this idea that the left hobbles themselves because they’re focused on being moral and truth seekers is more of an excuse for not being as effective as they should be.

Thank you for understanding. I feel like I’m going insane seeing this and doesn’t seem others are grasping this stuff. Sadly I don’t think trump is dump either but I feel like it has to be said here just so I don’t have to also go into explaining that. The right is smart where the left is not. The right wing seems to grasp social game more. Trump knows how to make politics entertaining to average guys

sure, diaper Donny is an absolute turd. But a turd who somehow has built a base that has more energy and commitment than anything in any other political group. They stormed the capital when he lost. They have hobbled elections and democracy for at least the next couple elections. And that’s only because Donny is such an idiot. You’re looking at this the wrong way. Donny as you would say is an absolute moron and shits the bed. But the left still lost and is only going to win the next election because Biden has been ok as a president. If Trump wasn’t an idiot, America could be in a much different place right now. And really, it kind of is in a much different place since the democrats lost the courts for a possible a couple decades.

Democrats hold on and don’t shit the bed.

Yup and how much was the electoral process and democracy damaged?

We’re debating right now what happens if a president is in prison.

Joe Biden won. But how confident are you that he’s holding for the next ten years? Plus who owns the courts right now for the next couple decades. Ground is lost everyday. Just wait for an economic downturn.

I think there is more going on then that. Wouldn’t you?

If I go ask ten people what they think about any wedge issue, majority of them will give right wing talking points even if they don’t lean right.

They’re winning and being ignorant to it doesn’t help any. I still see assholes on my overpass on weekends rotating topics like carbon taxes, vaccines, bill gates, WHO and so on. The supporting honks they get is soul crushing.

Can you explain what spewing mostly fabricated, irrelevant nonsense has to do with being dominate socially or politically? Cause I would argue it’s more of an obstacle to dominating in these areas.

Yet they seem to dominate when sparring with the left.

The guys you all keep saying are stupid Neanderthals keep winning. What gives?

I agree for the most part except I disagree that the solution is violent in anyway.

View Society fundamentally as in group and then a million out groups. Its pop culture vs sub groups. The right wing represent popular culture in almost every country they are traditionalist. They are where every other group wants to be. They are blue jean letter jacket pop culture.

The left wing are always the rejects, both by choice and not by choice. They are various groups of skids and punks and poor and jobless and immigrants. Unified under this idea that they deserve the attention and same rules applied to the pop group.

Protests is a way the sub groups fight to gain equality with the pop group. Little by little it can succeed with violence but I don’t believe that’s effective. I think it does the opposite. I think a lot of these protests serve the people that are being protested more. That’s because a lot of modern protestors seem to have gone with this view that becoming a burden to everyone is the way to get movement?

Environmental activist deflate tires and stand in traffic. During morning commutes for example. If you look at life as groups all vying for popularity, these actions are unpopular and alienate these groups and their associated causes. Being violent also accomplishes this. Violence can get a lot done. Doesn’t mean its the most effective. I just cannot believe modern day protestors have never decided to make their cause appealing in a way to make their cause something that people would want to join. Why is it always being obnoxious and shouting and violent or a nuisance. I have a suspicion that large entities figured out long ago you can beat these protestors and kill their momentum by actually encouraging them. Not just encouraging them but finding the most radical and unappealing ones in the group and funding them so they become leaders.

I’ve watched decades of leftist get their heads kicked in by conservative police forces who have learned how to better kick in heads. Mean while leftists are showing up with a playbook that hasn’t been updated in 70 years. If anything the 70s probably had more effective playbook. Point is its fun to say but the left is not making a great case for learning and adapting.

Hell in Canada they have pretty much fucked us for a few decades pretty severely

I also wonder if when we talk about foreign and domestic troll farms if those are the topics they push.

Its like the Facebook math questions “8÷2(2×2)=?” Which gets thousands and thousands of engagement and people all arguing not knowing better or they do know better and attempt to explain.

Seems like often ambiguous topic seem like the things both sides of any argument focus on and dig heels in about.

Several left wing supporters have focused efforts by shit posting on r/Helldivers

Edit: I get it guys not funny. We all know they protested in a way that let cops beat, arrest and corral them in a very comfortable way by doing the same thing the last 50 years of protesting has done. Police wrote the book already and it would waste trees having to make them adapt to new tactics like driving 100 cars into a city so they are overwhelmed immediately. Send in the severely under weight hormonal teenagers and adults with glandular issues to the front lines against the roided out armed and armored sociopath