NoneOfUrBusiness

Will Hamas stop if Isreal does?

If Israel stops its apartheid and ethnic cleansing? Certainly.

This would be slightly more believable if Rabin wasn’t assassinated and Netanyahu didn’t basically tear up the Oslo accords.

Yeah fair enough.

Do I really need to explain the similarity between Hamas and the IRA?

Let me just tell you, you’d have been on the wrong side of history during the Troubles.

Now that aside, if you think there’s only one terrorist organization involved in the current war you need to rethink, well, everything about the conflict, because everything Hamas does Israel does times 10 to 100.

I don’t agree with “while isolated rapes may have taken place, there was insufficient evidence to support allegations that rape had been ‘widespread and systematic’.”

I mean it turned that that there was no widespread and systematic rape no?

Uh… That’s not how bias works.

They are the remnants of BBC Middle East,

Remnants? What happened to them?

I mean they’re not gonna say bad shit about Qatar, but other than that they’re pretty good.

I mean whether God exists aside, if you’re buying Jews’ (especially Zionist Jews’) God’s chosen people spiel you have your own problems.

They don’t need to say it (mostly because nobody is asking that question). Two questions that were asked is “Is the number of deaths in Gaza justified by the war” and “do you think Israel is using adequate or too little force in Gaza”. And apparently 88% of Israeli jews think the answer is yes for the former, and 94% think so for the latter. Similarly, only 27% of Israeli Jews support a two-state solution, while 38% think Israel should annex the West Bank with limited Palestinian rights (admittedly I thought this one would be higher).

https://archive.is/PWZ1h

I mean I’m quoting numbers from two weeks ago. I’d love to think that the number of people who support genocide in Israel is less than that, but you can’t argue with evidence.

Man genocide and forced migration had been the Zionist plan since 1917, and if you let something like a genocide get you behind schedule you won’t get any settler colonialism done.

They’ve been protesting against him because he violated their security and democracy, not because he’s committing genocide. 80% of them (including 88% of Jewish Israelis) are perfectly fine with that part.

Oh shit I brainfarted, I meant 2020.

I mean low-information voter is one thing, but I think even those people either understand that Trump is a threat to democracy or think that he’s their messiah who descended from the sky.

instead i got this drivel that “voters dont mind!”

Yeah that’s nonsense. Voters absolutely do mind, as they should.

People who would vote for Trump because Biden chose not to support genocide? Probably not many. From what I understand real centrists are a dying breed.

The people who decided not to vote for Biden made that decision with this information in mind. The problem is: The enshittification of the Democratic Party relies on the idea that people will hold their noses and vote for the “lesser evil”. This nonsense is how we got Trump in 2016 and how we (or well you I’m not American) are going to get him in 2024. Even if everyone does hold their noses and vote for Trump we’ll get another Trump, then another, then another, until the Dems are putting children back in the mines and saying “but we’re better than the Republicans”.

If people don’t put their foot down and demand change nothing will happen.

Is this not the correct understanding?

It is in very general terms, but when you get down to it it fails miserably, because when both candidates are bad people not all vote for the lesser evil; they just don’t vote. This depresses turnout for the Democrats (Republicans love Trump), when voter turnout is their lifeline. The people who voted for Biden in 2016 are extremely disillusioned with him for many reasons, not the least of which actively perpetuating genocide. This isn’t the recipe for high voter turnout. Essentially saying vote for the lesser evil works until the people you’re calling on say no thanks, and we’re way past that point.

Edit: Grammar.

Oh that too.