I was abused by my christian parents.
I would like to live long enough to see humanity mature out of superstition and free the world from human greed.
I recently started treatment for my alcohol dependency; imo, no one should drink it. Alcohol is basically poison. It is worse the younger you start:
The brain is still developing throughout the teen years. Research shows that heavy drinking in the teen years can cause long-lasting harm to their learning, memory, and reasoning.
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/niaaa-middle-school/too-soon-too-dangerous
Why would I do that when it’s not my claim? The onus is on you to show that they were disallowed.
If you can disprove the contents of the article you chose to criticize, please do.
I know what the article and the headline say. Your initial criticism is still invalid.
Can you find a source that says they were allowed to resubmit the post?
I do not have a facebook account to see the group page for myself. According to the article, the criticism was not reposted. It was banned there, as reflected by the headline.
They asked about submitting the post for approval
…which was ignored. Instead:
they were offered a meeting with Acton.
…which turned out to be a lie.
Where do you get the idea that they were allowed to resubmit the post?
the Ohio Democratic Party had demanded the criticism be removed. The caucus protested, appealed, but then relented. The criticism never went back up.
It was banned.
No. Remember? They tried that:
After deleting the original statement, we promptly asked about submitting the post for approval through the proper channels so that it could be reposted. At this point, ODP staff informed us that a meeting with Acton was on the table. After thorough discussion, caucus leadership determined this offer aligned with our goal to bring our message directly to her.
They got tricked into attending a meeting without Acton. And some of them weren’t allowed into the meeting.
That isn’t the question. The question is “why can’t the original posters resubmit through the proper channels”? Because it was banned.
The page where it could do the most good. Why is that not enough for you? It is still a ban.
They posted to Facebook. The post was taken down, allegedly because they did not go through proper channels to post it. Their requests to return the post to Facebook were met with invitations to a shitty zoom call they couldn’t enter with a person who did not attend.
that specific criticism isn’t banned because we just read that criticism in a substack
It remains forbidden from being posted on their Facebook page.
I appreciate you trying to hold headline authors accountable, but I don’t see how this headline is inaccurate.
Ohio Dem Party Has Banned Criticism Of Gov. Candidate Amy Acton Calling Trans Girls “Boys”
I think it is future-proof, too. Even if the post is restored, the fact remains that it was once banned.
Dumb fuck, it’s not all-or-nothing. Specific criticism that could make a positive difference is being censored. I’m sorry you fucked up, but please stop pretending otherwise. It was an easy mistake, but a harmful one. We should not downplay what is happening here, criticism was banned.
Your words:
But sure, let’s frame it as banning all criticism.
Criticism has been banned.
I can’t steel-man something that is blatantly false. You repeatedly insisted that they were not banning criticism. You pretended that by offering a direct meeting instead of allowing the criticism to be reposted, they were not banning any criticism.
Now what happened? She didn’t show up to the meeting and the trans people she should have apologized to were prevented from even attending.
Acton and her team are still pretending they have done nothing wrong, are still actively shielding themselves from consequences of their bad decisions.
Criticism has been banned again.
Do you still think they were being fair?
https://lemmy.today/post/57542998
Inside sources who have gone public now say the “listening session” was a debacle. Acton did not show up, her campaign manager barred Arienne Childrey—Vice Chair of the party’s Pride Caucus, a transgender candidate for the Ohio House, and Ohio’s first openly trans city council member—from even entering the Zoom call. When another advocate demanded to know why Childrey was barred, she was ejected. The Chair of the Progressive Caucus, Kim McCarthy, was locked in the waiting room during the entire “listening session.” And in the end, the campaign ultimately refused to apologize for calling trans girls “boys,” refused to retract Acton’s support for a transgender sports ban, and ended the meeting with no plans for what come next.
I asked my boss why the company insisted we show up three times a week. It was basically to justify the cost of putting the buildings there, maybe some kind of tax benefits. She called it “funny money”. I quit my job.
Try searching for communities related to your interests.
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Then quote the part that says it was met with only one alternative. It should be so easy.
I did, numerous times. Have a nice life, sea lion.
Informing someone that they can set up a meeting is derailing now. Amazing.
It is. Where is the response to their actual request?
How do you know it was “met with only one alternative”? Were you there? Can you share the discussion?
I read the article. You should try it. The headline is appropriate.
When did they submit it for approval?
After deleting the original statement, we promptly asked about submitting the post for approval through the proper channels so that it could be reposted.
What is the approval process? How long does it take?
I would also be curious to know these details, but they seem irrelevant, because ODP derailed them instead:
At this point, ODP staff informed us that a meeting with Acton was on the table.
How do you know it won’t be approved?
It is a reasonable assumption based on the fact that their request for resubmission was met with only one alternative.
The fact that our lives will come to an end makes every moment we have more precious. These are unique experiences that cannot be replicated.
Easy to say, and I do believe it, but also…
Boomers like my parents chose and still choose to perpetuate abusive systems instead of opposing them. I spent too long thanking them for teaching me violence because any other reaction would be met with violence. Why am I supposed to feel grateful about being born into a backwards, burning slave world?
I am finally getting treatment for alcohol dependency. I want to stop hiding from my own life, but I don’t know how. I wasted myself on people who don’t actually care about anything but themselves. It sometimes feels like there is too much pain for anything to be worthwhile, but I am also too scared to check out early.
So… I don’t know. We have a lot of problems to solve. Things may get worse before they get better, but there is potential for things to get better. Theoretically. 🤷 I hope they get better for everyone, including you. I wish I knew.