i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

I use a lowercase c because I’m anticapitalist

she already rejected it before the article was published. it’s in the article

Jill rejected the endorsement, unlike Harris

for individuals who pay retail price for all their food. people who get free meat or dairy or harvest their own are not a party of that study. it applies to almost none of the poor people in the world, including the UK and Europe

your not my doctor

I imagine asian markets dwarf America and europe

can you link any of them?

do you have some evidence for that?

In day to day life, veganism has the single highest impact

I don’t know how this can be quantified, but id love to see how you try.

I looked at it. it’s not compelling

good luck

you should give a trigger warning when you link gore

do you have a plan to make that happen?

More people are going vegan than ever before as 88 million have went vegan.

it doesn’t seem to be effective at reducing or even stopping the growth of the meat industry

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/meat-production-tonnes?tab=chart&country=~OWID_WRL

comparing slaves to animals is what slavers do.

I will not be kind to those who are animal abusers

most people feel the same way.

Mean consumption is on a downward trend

can you show me some evidence of this?

calling me names is neither an argument nor evidence.

I did watch that video. probably a dozen times. it gets posted often. I shouldn’t be expected to debunk an argument that isn’t made.

I rewatched* it after I made my comment though, and it does not establish what they claimed. it doesn’t cite sources**, and it’s primary thesis is “it’s complicated”

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* i actually listened to it. but just now, after i made this comment, i scrubbed it and i found:

** they do some pretty hard-to-see and also hard-to-research citation in the form of citing academic papers in the bottom right of the screen around the time they are making the claim. and let me tell you, poore-nemecek is the basis of the lca analysis (which i could have guessed), and that lca analysis is flat out bad science. it’s certainly not a compelling reason to be vegan.

I’m not watching your YouTube video. if you can’t articulate a compelling reason, just say so.

I find it hard to believe that it is the biggest impact a single person can have. can you enumerate the other strategies it is weighed against?

you also aren’t supporting your claims about affordability, health, nor ease with anything but anecdotal evidence.