The Catholic Church may be corrupt and reactionary and have friendships with fascists in its past, but right now it’s less extreme and less fascist than MAGA.

I searched around for this and the one on the right was described in a few places as “heavily photoshopped”. She may look a bit odd after all the plastic surgery, but as far as I could see she doesn’t usually look quite this odd.

When you start calling every leader of the Catholic Church a Marxist, you’ve seriously lost the plot. The American right is ridiculous.

Bigotry is the only thing they seem to want tolerance of.

This could easily turn into another avenue for oppression. “Desginate x a mental illness and treat it” doesn’t necessarily turn out any better than “Put all the practitioners of x in the gulag.” So really you need to focus on overthrowing the authoritarians who want to oppress people.

Wow, I have come across this inaccurate talking point from right-wingers on many occasions, but I never realized that Americans were being taught these lies in school. Well, we are really seeing the effects of all this propaganda now the fascists are in power.

It’s not that the meaning of “socialist” changed but that the Nazis were never actually socialist despite their deliberately misleading name, and Hitler had anyone in the party with any socialist tendencies killed off. You seem not to be hearing what everyone in the thread is trying to say to you. The Nazis were straightforwardly fascist, far right, and never anything to do with socialism or the left.

A couple of articles debunking the claim that Nazis were socialist:

No, the Nazis Were Not Socialists

Were the Nazis socialists?

By Nazi standards, conservatives are too far left.

You’re right. Sorry for that inaccuracy. I updated my comment.

And this chaotic regime expects other countries to do deals with them.

Especially when the US Government changes its mind about tariffs every few minutes. No one can plan major infrastructure changes around that.

Here in Canada the last-minute swing from Conservative to Liberal was definitely a response to Trump, particularly to his repeated threats to take over our country.

Worldwide it may be more that what causes the rise of fascism in the USA also causes it worldwide - and sometimes this is an actual network of wealthy right-wing organizations and nation states working to promote it through propaganda and funding.

If you replace “Trumpism” with “fascism”, it has clearly been on the rise all around the world for a decade or so now, and it’s taking over more and more countries all the time. However it’s far from clear that we’ve reached any kind of turning point where fascism starts to become less popular worldwide, just because of some fairly limp election results in Canada and Australia.

The current crop are eugenicists who believe the poor dying is nature’s answer to their inherent weakness, whereas Elon Musk having dozens of children is appropriate to his racial and genetic superiority. They’re not playing the same game as the rest of us.

Yeah, it trickles down from rich parents to their kids. That’s good enough for him I guess.

I’ve lived in several countries and watched conservatives in all of them over half a century. Nothing I have seen has ever changed my view that conservatism is pathological selfishness disguised as a political philosophy. While other political movements agree on making life better for people in general but disagree on how to do it, conservatives indulge their personality disorder, call it politics, and demand to be taken as seriously as those who actually try.

They’ll say whatever they need to. If the fascists in charge of the USA hate you they’ll find a way to get rid of you, with or without some cooked-up explanation. People need to come together and fight this already.

Yes, Italy, Hungary and others are already well down the fascist path. Romania just went fascist. Romania’s current election front-runner is a fascist. Austria is struggling not to be wholly under the far right’s control, depending on a coalition to hold them off. The far right has significant power in the governments of Slovakia, Netherlands, Finland, and Sweden. Portugal and Belgium are also dealing with surging far right movements.

It’s absurd to conclude it’s over because centrism squeaked through in Canada and Australia. It’s like everyone relaxing in 2020 because the US public were sure to see sense under Biden.