fantoozie

Well I suppose the future will prove one of us wrong

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Good luck with life.

Is that really your argument? If farms just increased their labor costs by 300-500%, we could all just be happily employed farmhands?

I won’t split hairs about what enthusiasm really looks like, but I’ll respond to your last point: I agree, but it is naive and dangerous to argue that the United States has even come close to acknowledging its sins. Until then, you all will bear the full weight of those sins, like it or not.

Lol fuck America depending on day laborers to subsidize low grocery prices. Time for all you citizens to get off your ass and head to the fields

Actually it’s pretty clear a significant portion of the American population is enthusiastic about this. I don’t know what is provocative about pointing out that Americans are renowned for their racism, transphobia, and misogyny. This country had literal slaves for 200 years, has only let women vote for less than 100 years, and still pretends the Civil War was about states rights. Open your eyes: this IS what America wants, and who America has decided to become.

Spot on take. It’s not hopeless though; greedy and selfish people typically reveal their own weaknesses as a result of arrogance. I don’t think enough people in the US take it seriously, but Im hoping that an entire generation of Americans does not want to die fighting over Greenland and Canada. We’ll see though.

Ok obviously I’m also flinging shit around. Is this not a public forum?

Is it funny? They obviously just want to fling shit around; I have better things to do.

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You’re not even answering a question. You’re just lashing out to soothe your ego because you can’t actually do anything.

What’s wrong with a strong border and well-regulated immigration?

Color me surprised that the Democrats have as much blame for our current situation as the Republicans. Nobody, NOBODY, wanted to return to normal; they wanted real change and the best they got was state-sponsored financing for tech companies and unequal economic policies

I would say your argument necessarily assumes that American hegemony has been a net good for the Global South, when in fact it has not. Foreign aid and development funds have created incremental progress in vital areas such as treatment for certain infectious diseases and emancipation of women globally (which is important; I’m not arguing that it’s ALL bad), but the countries on the receiving end of those funds have unequivocally stated that they’d rather engage with the West as equal partners in trade and economic integration rather than be subject to asymmetrical policies that only perpetuate their status as cheap wells of natural resources and labor. The fact that the current Administration is rescinding that aid without considering the repurcussions gives immense weight to their arguments, in my opinion.

I think an unrecognized issue is that Pax Americana was good for living standards in the West, but its implementation necessitated the creation of an underclass to subsidize that growth; much in the same way that domestically, we have an underclass of wage-earners, incarcerated laborers, and immigrants that subsidizes the outsized wealth of a few individuals. I think, given the circumstances, it’s not unreasonable that people living in the periphery would rather take ANY change than continue living under the boot of American neoliberal economic ideology.

While the devil you know could possibly be better than the one you don’t, the world is ripe for a transformation that recognizes the shortcomings of the West. Without having that conversation, I don’t see how you can expect people to sign in to the notion America should remain at the top of the international order. The argument that ‘it could be so much worse’ is actually quite condescending.

Ironically, the FDA is actually moving towards mass vaccination of industrial chicken and cow operations!

https://www.science.org/content/article/u-s-conditionally-approves-vaccine-protect-poultry-avian-flu