…and kids, that’s how you get worms in your brain. (undercooked wild meat)

or that they are too afraid to voice their anti maga viewpoints

n widely recommended in the

yup the evidence on the TB vaccine had been pretty iffy and many argued that lowered TB exposure and infection rates were due to better population nutrition and improved air quality. That said, most other countries still use BCG in the world.

this one gets it. This is exactly how Viktor Orban’s system works.

Well, in this case you support the side that will fuck it up even more for Palestinians. But you know, at least we all can “enjoy” your moral superiority.

Yup. if they are same on this issue, people should have had the 95 other aspects where they are different. But again to quote another Lemmy user, “You won’t reason someone out of a viewpoint they’ve never reasoned themselves into in the first place”

Your point is taken poorly because you raise issue with people giving deservedly nonsensical interpretations to a nonsensical definition, while giving a pass on WH calling their definition an “incontrovertible biological truth”.

winning what? debates? you mean reasoning with a pigeon?

And he doesn’t get convicted and he’ll campaign on how nasty the Dems are. An impeachment without conviction is a “win”.

The WH accidentally invented Schrödinger’s Sex.

Of course it’s also wrong because unlike dead/alive sex is a bimodally distributed continuum we binarize for simplicity. Also, don’t look up the Schrödinger dude’s sexual preferences because you’ll puke. But that stays on brand too.

Can you point me to the part of the text where they provide clarification from a biological standpoint? This language sets up the interpretation: “the policy of the United States to recognize two sexes, male and female […] grounded in fundamental and incontrovertible reality”. So if this is an “incontrovertible reality” then why do people have such an easy time refuting it?

Which gives me flashbacks about having to learn the specific adrenal enzyme dysfunctions that lead to erroneous sex-assignments at birth. But again, I don’t think people need biology degrees to have an understanding of this and I’d like society to stop trying to give “good faith” interpretations to texts that are explicitly written in bad faith.

s clearly indicates the ‘belonging’ occurs ‘at conception’, not the production of disparately sized cells. When the production occurs is not specified at all and nothing in the definition depends upon when it occurs, merely that it does at some point. This creates it own set of problems, but not the ones everyone is pointing and laughing

Firstly, I have an MD and would have never commented on this without reading the specific text from the WH. Med school curricula cover this in molecular biology, embryology, medical genetics, pediatrics and obstetrics, and endocrinology.

Secondly, the definition implies that zygotes can be classified as male/female at conception, which they obviously cannot be without further clarification. Your “good faith” reasoning is that you can retrospectively make that assignment, but there are no criteria to determine how that assignment ultimately happens, which therefore requires additional layers of “good faith” reasoning. Which takes us back to, yeah, the WH definition is hot garbage.

You’re talking about genotype. They define sex based on phenotype. It assumes that the genotype can only be binary (it can be X0, XXY, XYY etc). It also assumes that genotype equates with phenotype, which is also wrong given in utero hormonal exposures, testosterone insensitivity, etc.

The WH definition makes no sense for anybody familiar with biology beyond 10th grade level.

**TL;DR: The issue is that there is no “good faith” interpretation of the text for anybody who studied 11th grade biology or above. **

It essentially makes a bunch of statements and assumptions with very very concrete omissions:

1. The zygote (fertilized egg) is a “person”. It’s a philosophical question, but considering that in IVF studies, successful implantation rates are around 10-15% (implantation does not guarantee survival past the 3rd trimester). So it’s actually very unlikely that the particular zygote will become a human being with agency. So good faith arguments would argue for special protections, but not personhood to it and that’s how you spot that the endgame is to use this false argument to override the agency of the actual person carrying the pregnancy.

**2. There is no sex assigned at conception. ** A single-cell zygote only has 2 sex-specific parameters: sex chromosome sets (or the lack thereof), and DNA methylation patterns. Neither of those guarantee manifestation of a male or female phenotype. So based on that, we are all asexual. The default sex for humans is actually female, and the primary function of the Y chromosome is to inhibit the development of the female form signs of that initiate in everyone first. So by that default, we are all female. And then the best faith assumption is that they mean is chromosomally determined sex at conception, but chromosome variations like XXY and XYY aren’t uncommon, and there are conditions where male chromosome sets yield female phenotype due to testosterone insensitivity (see testicular feminisation).

So no, the EO reads like someone trying to make biological definitions who has a <11th grade understanding of biology.