I haven’t watched it yet but it looks like this might be the full interview:

https://youtu.be/OtQ1ksG7Uug?si=i6rGcz7BpmVd5XDN

I have been looking for a replacement for Nova due to the sale but haven’t found anything that comes close re gestures. I can set up a folder with any icon I want. Tap on it and it opens the folder. Swipe up on the folder and it opens whatever app I want. Same with swipe down.

So for example I have a folder with my audio apps in it that looks like a musical note. Swipe up and it opens my music app. Swipe down and it opens my podcast app. Tap and it opens a folder with all my audio apps. It’s amazing and such a time saver. I’m gonna try Action. Sounds like it’s not quite as customisable but hopefully close enough.