

The hot take that was so bad you had to post it twice.
A lot of folks don’t use Spotify at all. Myself included. I listen to a lot of podcasts, including Midas touch.
Why would I pay for audio, when I’m a fan of FOSS. And there’s a number of free alternatives?
Considering there’s many podcast platforms, and Joe Rogan is only on one. Looking at just Spotify statistics is the worst way to tell what the overall statistics look like.