Well I suppose not always. We did have a revolutionary war and a civil war.

But anybody alive today? Less bite than a newborn.

Same.

I wouldn’t equate voting for the lesser of two evils with “blind allegiance”.

For all of Biden’s faults (of which there are many) he’s still the better candidate on offer.

All the issues you bring up are valid, of course, but unfortunately there’s a lot at risk should Trump win. And voting for a senile old man is still preferable to voting for a fascist who is primarily running as a way to stay out of prison.

I’m not sure how we can hijack the DNC primaries to get a real quality candidate, but as far as improving our elections overall, that’s where I’d like to see some progress.

It’s entirely possible I’m only familiar with the far right, and not so much the average mainstream conservative. Which is a wild thing to think about my life, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

You have not been listening to conservatives, then. I grew up on a steady diet of Rush Limbaugh and later Fox News. “Activist liberal judges” has been a decades-long refrain on the right.

He was kind of a wet paper sack sitting the primaries, if he’d come in with this energy he might’ve gotten somewhere.

Perhaps my point didn’t come across. I’m not trying to explain why a swing voter would stay in one party. I was trying to understand what might cause someone in the US in today’s world to be the kind of person who could feasibly vote for either party when they are wildly different on the major topics in the zeitgeist.

That’s something a swing voter might be likely to do, but it’s not a cause of being a swing voter.

Because they find voting Democrat to be more distasteful, for whatever reason. I have to imagine the people who swing the swing states have to be a really interesting mix of uninformed and having close relationships with people from both major parties. Like they only know the ideas at super high levels, basically just the slogans and spokespeople. It’s all vibes.

Or I could be way off, I dunno. World’s a wacky place

I’d suggest picking other issues to discuss where the average progressive/leftie would agree with the direction of the Democrats, esp where a Trump win would likely mean a severe worsening. The right to bodily autonomy, LGBT+ rights, student loan forgiveness, progressive tax brackets (that may be a stretch for importance to the morally disaffected, but still), unions. Democrats may not be the best on those topics, but they at least move things a couple ticks in the right direction in the face of the alternative, which would be a very fast reversal of those gains (see recent supreme court rulings for evidence of that).

Just my $.02

Oh they’ll blame all the demographics they can. The youths. “Progressives”. I doubt they’d go so far as to blame “wokeism” but I imagine some other made up demographic would apparate.

I mean I’m voting Biden in the fall, swing state and all. But still, The DNC needs a lot of overhaul for sure.

Ah, yes, a political party that spends millions and millions of dollars and countless labor hours running campaigns really wants to lose the election.

Biden et al may not do everything we want, but it’s ignorant to suggest they aren’t at least trying to change some things.

Don’t think I’ve seen “univocal” before. Interesting.

And that, everybody, is literally not the correct usage of “enshittification”.

Jk, but for real though, it’s not a direct synonym for “degraded” or “gets worse”. It’s more specific than that.

Plus, “literally” now literally has an alternative definition in the dictionary meaning “figuratively”. So y’know, maybe get over the needless linguistic prescriptivism.

No worries. Stay safe and sleep well.

For weed I think we’d be fine.

DEI as a term is probably at least that old. It started taking off as a “progressive” corporate training term after being watered down a bit about 4 or 5 years ago. And about a year ago, conservatives got their mitts on the term as another hot-swappable slur against anything that has even a LaCroix level hint of progressivism/leftism.

I recently asked a “I’ll never vote for Biden” person here on Lemmy why, what goal does that accomplish? And boy oh boy, their answers were flacid, goal-post-shifting non-sequiturs. I never replied but someone else took up the torch, and I’ve never seen a conversation more like 2015 gamergate anti-feminists. Just garbage after distraction after red herring.