• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    6 months ago

    I don’t like the doctors talking down to me. I don’t want to see a bunch of charts and figures, I know Ginny wasn’t right after she got her vaccine. That stuff might work on the liberals, but not on me.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      Billionaires are doing great, therefore anyone who isn’t must be imagining it. They’re exactly like antivaxxers for noticing they can’t make rent.

    • eskimofry@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      See you’re doing it again. You’re insulting the intelligence of critics and saying they are too daft to read charts or understand the benefits of vaccines. Instead of focusing on the actually problematic stuff.

      A politician with the same level of knowledge and experience as a Doctor? Surely you know those two things are different.

      How much are you scared about Trump being in office that you will bash people for criticizing democrats?

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        I’m insulting the intelligence (or, the education / choice of worldview) of someone who wants to look at a large analytical and hard-to-understand problem through an ancedotal lens, and actively rejects someone who wants to talk about the numerical aspect as “talking down” to them. I feel comfortable insulting that way of being because to me it’s very wrong. It’s not done out of hatred or anything for someone who does that, but they are making a mistake yes, and it’s a deceptively infectious mistake in a way that makes it worthwhile to call out. In my opinion.

        How much are you scared about Trump being in office that you will bash people for criticizing democrats?

        Pretty sure I posted an excerpt elsewhere in this thread that was highly critical of most Democrats’ strategy, and earlier today I posted a video of Biden fucking up the response to a question about “anti-Semitic” protestors, and briefly talked about how he fucked it up and why. Criticizing Biden or Democrats I think is great. If I think the criticism is wrong (or particularly if I think the pattern of thinking behind it is wrong) then I’ll “bash” the person doing it, yes.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          I’m insulting the intelligence (or, the education / choice of worldview) of someone who wants to look at a large analytical and hard-to-understand problem through an ancedotal lens

          Most people don’t care about broader economic trends when they’re deciding which bill to not pay this month. Democrats have forgotten how to speak to that.

          • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            Yeah. Hence the good points in the OP article. Doesn’t mean that analyzing the bigger picture suddenly becomes a bad thing to do though.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 months ago

              Nope, but calling people who are suffering antivaxxers because they don’t slap on a big doofy fake grin and pretend that Biden is their fucking savior is insulting.

              • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                Why are you so hostile to the idea of objectively trying to determine what is and isn’t working, and who is and isn’t helping the situation?

                And I didn’t call anyone suffering an antivaxxer. I sort of called PP_BOY an antivaxxer, but that was specifically because he used antivaxxer style arguments.

                  • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    Okay. Let’s try the other part, then. Why are you so hostile to the idea of objectively trying to determine what is and isn’t working, and who is and isn’t helping the situation?