• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    In the UK there are 5 independent MP’s who beat both mainstream parties that won just by advocating for a ceasefire in Gaza.

    Now if anyone wants to save Democracy it might be time to sack Genocide Joe and run a candidate that actually has popular policies. Because Biden will not beat Trump and that was even before he started adding Geriatric to his list of adjectives.

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      The irony is that if people don’t vote for Biden because of his Israel policy (which has been the policy of every president before him), then Trump will win and then Gaza will be finished.

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        Like a big graveyard

        And then the Israelis will move in, presumably, and the Palestinians will become a scattered-handful ethnicity with no country at all, like the Kurds. Or like the Jews used to be.

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          But then we can rebuild Temple Mount and establish The Third Temple at al-Aqsa mosque and welcome The Messiah back!

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        Gaza is already finished what do you mean?

        It might be impossible to understand for Biden supporters but some people actually have functional red lines. And Biden crossed them.

        Rewarding Biden for this behavior is far worse in the long term than the slightly more evil Trump could be. Thought I doubt Trump would actually be worse on Palestine.

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            When you read the “first they came for” poem, what do you think it means?

            A vote for Biden is a vote for Genocide and Fascism to come to the USA in the future.

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              What’s better, fascism “sometime in the future”, or fascism in 4 months?

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                It’s like I’m talking to a bunch of CEO’s that are incapable of seeing anything else than short term gains.

                Unless you’re fully bought into the 2025 fearmongering BS, a vote for Biden now means Democrats will learn they can keep doing this in the future.

                If this makes Biden lose they will learn that screwing over an entire voter demographic to make Genocide possible is not a viable political strategy.

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        Suburban boomers are not relevant. Swing voters are the only party that matters. Without them Democrats won’t win.

        Supposedly Bidens support for israel was because he wants to win the Zionist vote in New York. Strangely everyone found that perfectly reasonable and didn’t say anything about how Trump is actually antisemitic (Nevermind that it turns out real Jews actually don’t support israel because New York is turning into a Red state right now after Biden got on his knees for Netanyahu)

        But using the exact same logic as Biden uses to win Zionist votes, Democrats seem perplexed that Arabs and Muslims aren’t going to vote for someone committing Genocide against their people.

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      I would love to adopt an European system. I wish .ore people accepted that they have been doing it longer and better. But that whole “we left it behind” thing.