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    More like pre-emptive blame shifting. Jill Stein voters aren’t going to win or lose this election.

    People who vote for her would just stay home and not vote if she wasn’t on the ballot.

    The issue is Palestine. It’s one of the things young voters mostly care about. And the administrations position on it isn’t going to draw out voters.

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        Nader was more popular than Stein. Stein votes this cycle will be protest votes.

        If Stein wasn’t on the ticket or other third party candidates, the protest voters wouldn’t vote for Harris.

        They’d simply stay home.

        It’s Palestine that will lose the Dems this election if it’s lost. Or fuckery by Trump in Georgia.

        Either way the biggest danger to the Dems is poor voter turnout. And it’s funding a genocide that’s going to cause that, not the green party.

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          Who is more popular doesn’t matter. The whole point of Stein’s candidacy is not to be popular. Stine knows that she pulls votes away on the left. And she knows she cannot win. Which was never her goal. Her goal because she knows she pulls away votes on the left is to make it easier for Donald Trump to win. No more no less.

          Protest voting in national elections is not a thing. People keep talking about protest voting against Harris or Biden. If you’re going to make the claim. You also need to show evidence of how it will work. I have 250 plus years of evidence that protest voting in national elections doesn’t work. Do you have evidence of a single instance of it working?

          No the Democrats stance on Palestine will not lose them the election. If the Democrats lose the election someone with a worse stance on Palestine will win. So tell me how when they look at that they’re supposed to understand that their stance was bad therefore they lost when someone with a worse stance won. If you want someone to learn to be better. Someone better than them needs to win. If someone worse than them wins. That means they need to adjust their tac to better match the views of the ones who won.

          This bullshit myth of protest voting in a national election is exactly why things have gotten worse. Ignorant uninformed people flailing politically only succeeding and injuring themselves.

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      More like pre-emptive blame shifting. Jill Stein voters aren’t going to win or lose this election.

      Actually, that’s a great fucking point. And very accurate. Thank you!