I keep seeing people say this – do venues typically charge separately for air con? I’ve booked venues for large events and have never been charged separately for utilities.
I honestly think this whole story is silly and overhyped. It reminds me of that story a few months ago where trump cut his thumb or something and didn’t notice, so there was some blood on his hand for a few hours in photos. Everyone went nuts that he had a disease.
This is a ridiculous thing to focus on, and it’s being blown way out of proportion. His rallies are full of fanatics (eta: who are prone to hysteria), and he’s certainly showing signs of dementia, but I watched that whole video, and he didn’t just stand there swaying the whole time. It was painfully awkward, but he did interact with people every few minutes.
I just think there are far, far bigger issues with this lunatic than this, and I seriously doubt there’s anything nefarious to do with the venue.
People generally don’t faint in these kinds of numbers, and at a venue or event like this, the most common cause is generally dehydration and heat exposure/exhaustion.
The most rational cause is that the someone turned off the aircon, or changed its setpoints to be warm enough to cause problems.
These venues aren’t constantly having these problems and the common denominator is that they’re at a trump rally.
Given that it’s extremely unlikely for the venue to do it on their own- for any reason- we can deduce that it was most likely at an intentional request by the trump campaign.
Now, this is all pure internet conjecture, don’t beget me wrong. But even if all the venues have issues with their hvac for whatever reason… then the simple remedy is to provide water.
So.
We can also say they’re fainting because trump is too cheap to provide inexpensive water. (We all know he’s selling Trump-branded tap water for ridiculous prices.)
Hysterical fanatics happen at virtually every major event. The most common cause of fainting is heat exposure and dehydration- and usually that goes hand in hand, not raging fantastism. (Although in many evangelical churches, it’s frequently confused for spiritual things…)
Further, these issues aren’t happening with other big events at these facilities.
Indoor venues have very good hvac systems, unless they’re positively ancient venues. But most of those have been revamped or torn down, and none of these are those kinds of places.
They know this is an issue and they generally take steps to stop it- cooling, and providing access to water are more than enough. You might get a few people collapsing because they’re stubborn and don’t want to get water or something, or because there’s a massive heat wave, but again, generally, those situations are known and easily dealt with.
One possible explanation is that trump rallies are planned on short notice and it takes forever to get the buildings cooled if havac was off.
But again, these conditions are known and easy to accommodate by simply providing water
TL/DR: whatever the physical cause, trump’s campaign is intentionally and knowingly not dealing with conditions. Trump himself has a long history of those sort of negligence- most notably, killing over a million Americans. Ultimately, the real cause is trump is an asshole that doesn’t mind if his own voters cark it, so long as they donate to his grift.
The economy under the Biden/Harris administration was blamed for the reason the venue operator could “not afford” to properly air condition the space by Trump. Governor Noem agreed by saying “Kamala sucks”.
I can’t say for certain on venue pricing models, but a lot of colder areas don’t have AC units installed in buildings. (I think because they don’t believe in hot weather and haven’t realized that global warming is coming for them next.)
Idk if Pennsylvania is like that though, I’ve only ever been there in the winter and AC inspection isn’t my industry sadly, so I’m only familiar with the heaters and snow.
I keep seeing people say this – do venues typically charge separately for air con? I’ve booked venues for large events and have never been charged separately for utilities.
I dunno.
But either every venue is shutting off the air con to fuck with trump or trump team is asking them (telling?) them to.
I doubt the venues would do that. The liability from just the medical, plus the liability of angry trumpian dickfucks doxxing your family…
Yeah. No. It’s something trump campaign is doing. And the campaign is broke so they may be asking to save a buck.
I honestly think this whole story is silly and overhyped. It reminds me of that story a few months ago where trump cut his thumb or something and didn’t notice, so there was some blood on his hand for a few hours in photos. Everyone went nuts that he had a disease.
This is a ridiculous thing to focus on, and it’s being blown way out of proportion. His rallies are full of fanatics (eta: who are prone to hysteria), and he’s certainly showing signs of dementia, but I watched that whole video, and he didn’t just stand there swaying the whole time. It was painfully awkward, but he did interact with people every few minutes.
I just think there are far, far bigger issues with this lunatic than this, and I seriously doubt there’s anything nefarious to do with the venue.
People generally don’t faint in these kinds of numbers, and at a venue or event like this, the most common cause is generally dehydration and heat exposure/exhaustion.
The most rational cause is that the someone turned off the aircon, or changed its setpoints to be warm enough to cause problems.
These venues aren’t constantly having these problems and the common denominator is that they’re at a trump rally.
Given that it’s extremely unlikely for the venue to do it on their own- for any reason- we can deduce that it was most likely at an intentional request by the trump campaign.
Now, this is all pure internet conjecture, don’t beget me wrong. But even if all the venues have issues with their hvac for whatever reason… then the simple remedy is to provide water.
So.
We can also say they’re fainting because trump is too cheap to provide inexpensive water. (We all know he’s selling Trump-branded tap water for ridiculous prices.)
Are they? Has fainting happened at other venues?
Why would they do that intentionally?
I’m not trying to be combative, but my sceptic spidey sense is tingling. This feels a bit conspiratorial.
e: I can get behind the water thing, but my gut leans towards his followers being hysterical fanatics.
Hysterical fanatics happen at virtually every major event. The most common cause of fainting is heat exposure and dehydration- and usually that goes hand in hand, not raging fantastism. (Although in many evangelical churches, it’s frequently confused for spiritual things…)
Further, these issues aren’t happening with other big events at these facilities.
Indoor venues have very good hvac systems, unless they’re positively ancient venues. But most of those have been revamped or torn down, and none of these are those kinds of places.
They know this is an issue and they generally take steps to stop it- cooling, and providing access to water are more than enough. You might get a few people collapsing because they’re stubborn and don’t want to get water or something, or because there’s a massive heat wave, but again, generally, those situations are known and easily dealt with.
One possible explanation is that trump rallies are planned on short notice and it takes forever to get the buildings cooled if havac was off.
But again, these conditions are known and easy to accommodate by simply providing water
TL/DR: whatever the physical cause, trump’s campaign is intentionally and knowingly not dealing with conditions. Trump himself has a long history of those sort of negligence- most notably, killing over a million Americans. Ultimately, the real cause is trump is an asshole that doesn’t mind if his own voters cark it, so long as they donate to his grift.
The economy under the Biden/Harris administration was blamed for the reason the venue operator could “not afford” to properly air condition the space by Trump. Governor Noem agreed by saying “Kamala sucks”.
I can’t say for certain on venue pricing models, but a lot of colder areas don’t have AC units installed in buildings. (I think because they don’t believe in hot weather and haven’t realized that global warming is coming for them next.)
Idk if Pennsylvania is like that though, I’ve only ever been there in the winter and AC inspection isn’t my industry sadly, so I’m only familiar with the heaters and snow.
I’m in Michigan and have never booked a venue that didn’t have air con. I don’t know about Pennsylvania, but it’s not colder than here.
I really doubt that was the issue. I could be wrong, obviously.