Progressives. Targeting moderates is often viewed as the “mathematically correct” tactic by abstract idiots but doing moderate stuff doesn’t yield political wins and leads to apathy.
Democrats have a lot of deactivated voters because of how deeply frustratingly moderate they are that outweigh the centrists they’re fighting for - additionally if you start making big policy wins you’ll win over all sorts of voters… Just as a fucking reminder Republican voters were more favorable of Sanders than Clinton because he had policy ideas that actually would improve their lives.
American politics is a morass of bullshit - when you offer to cut through that (Obama, Sanders, (bleh) Trump) and deliver real improvements to people’s daily lives you win.
The problem isn’t even moderates it’s the out right conservatives in the DNC. Actual progressives in the party are a dying breed these days with the overwhelming majority being moderates and yet somehow the most conservative members are the ones that keep steering the policy decisions. Kamala is a conservative. Biden is a conservative. Tim Walz is barely a moderate. The DNC of today looks like the RNC of the 90s and that’s not a good thing. Even Obama was a moderate and he’s the most progressive presidential candidate I’ve seen the DNC run in at least three decades if not more.
However, some of the more annoying Bernie Bros were there to sow division, not because they liked the ideas necessarily. I personally know multiple supporters that have MAGA flags now.
It’s kinda similar to how Dems “backed” Trump in the 2016 primaries because they thought he’d be easier to beat in the general.
I cannot beleive you know several who supported Bernie could be flying a maga flag now. It sounds like you just happen to know a group of lying maga jerks. You claim you “know them personally”. How did you end up as close personal friends with a bunch of maga jerks? I dont know a single one except an uncle the family openly jokes about. They say if you want to know who you are, look at yiur friends. You’re the average of your friends.
I’m not close friends, but I work in the automotive industry/trades, which unfortunately has some real idiots (not all by any means), but also smart real assholes.
Also I’m in an important primary state, where independents can vote for either side to influence nominations. It happens all the fucking time here.
Progressives. Targeting moderates is often viewed as the “mathematically correct” tactic by abstract idiots but doing moderate stuff doesn’t yield political wins and leads to apathy.
Democrats have a lot of deactivated voters because of how deeply frustratingly moderate they are that outweigh the centrists they’re fighting for - additionally if you start making big policy wins you’ll win over all sorts of voters… Just as a fucking reminder Republican voters were more favorable of Sanders than Clinton because he had policy ideas that actually would improve their lives.
American politics is a morass of bullshit - when you offer to cut through that (Obama, Sanders, (bleh) Trump) and deliver real improvements to people’s daily lives you win.
The problem isn’t even moderates it’s the out right conservatives in the DNC. Actual progressives in the party are a dying breed these days with the overwhelming majority being moderates and yet somehow the most conservative members are the ones that keep steering the policy decisions. Kamala is a conservative. Biden is a conservative. Tim Walz is barely a moderate. The DNC of today looks like the RNC of the 90s and that’s not a good thing. Even Obama was a moderate and he’s the most progressive presidential candidate I’ve seen the DNC run in at least three decades if not more.
The border “crisis” is the perfect example of this: biden’s policy on the Mexican border would make w blush.
I don’t know if it’s true, but I wish it were.
However, some of the more annoying Bernie Bros were there to sow division, not because they liked the ideas necessarily. I personally know multiple supporters that have MAGA flags now.
It’s kinda similar to how Dems “backed” Trump in the 2016 primaries because they thought he’d be easier to beat in the general.
I cannot beleive you know several who supported Bernie could be flying a maga flag now. It sounds like you just happen to know a group of lying maga jerks. You claim you “know them personally”. How did you end up as close personal friends with a bunch of maga jerks? I dont know a single one except an uncle the family openly jokes about. They say if you want to know who you are, look at yiur friends. You’re the average of your friends.
I’m not close friends, but I work in the automotive industry/trades, which unfortunately has some real idiots (not all by any means), but also smart real assholes.
Also I’m in an important primary state, where independents can vote for either side to influence nominations. It happens all the fucking time here.