Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) shares his message to voters in the Uncommitted Movement who are considering not voting in the presidential race over the Biden administration's handling of Israel.
yeah obviously moderate dems and DINOs like Manchin are never going to go for that. If that’s your bar for voting for democrats you’re being completely unrealistic.
Realistically, we’re going to have to demand the impossible
What’s impossible is asking humans to work together for the good of all. Enough people think that such behaviour is treason that they will start a violent insurrection to stop it.
and how do you intend to “demand” that? if you mean withholding your vote until they cater to your specific view of the way things should be done you’re going to be waiting forever. and in the meantime republicans will keep fucking things up even worse.
The democrats have openly refused to pack the courts. How are they supposed to campaign if they don’t have Republicans to threaten us with?
I used to think these kinds of comments were silly jokes. But, the more that the Dems just allow everything to slip rightwards, it seems like this is really their strategy, and I’m worried it’s not a joke.
Don’t worry, when the Republican party falls apart after Trump loses and the Democrats are the pro-fracking, pro-genocide right wing party there will be space for the union movement to assemble a new left coalition.
I hope all this actually happens, as the US would be a better place with serious political representation that isn’t different flavours of Conservative. But I won’t be surprised if it does not, plenty of people are happy to vote for bigotry.
I predicted this back in 2015 when the Democrats started openly conspiring against Bernie. If the 2024 dem incumbent dropped out, not only would Trump lose, but his loss will split the party and the infighting will destroy it.
Hate fuels Republicans into resisting infighting. They have someone else to hate more.
I worry that it’s the left which tends to infight themselves into irrelevance.
They will blame immigrants, gays, and feminists (especially childless women) first. That’s the unifying ‘strength’ of right-wing politics: ignorant hate.
The “unifying strength” of fascism is it’s enforcement of a hierarchy, and Trump’s supporters hate losers more than anyone else. When he loses, they are going to blame everyone but especially the “moderate” anti-Trump republicans. They’ll destroy their own party trying to root out the unfaithful.
The democrats have openly refused to pack the courts. How are they supposed to campaign if they don’t have Republicans to threaten us with?
not sure what you’re talking about, Biden has appointed almost as many judges as Trump did. And also not far off Obama who served two terms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_by_judicial_appointments#Judicial_appointments_by_president
They had two years of majority in both houses under Biden where they could have added justices to the bench.
yeah obviously moderate dems and DINOs like Manchin are never going to go for that. If that’s your bar for voting for democrats you’re being completely unrealistic.
Realistically, we’re going to have to demand the impossible if we want to solve climate change and half a dozen other major existential issues.
What’s impossible is asking humans to work together for the good of all. Enough people think that such behaviour is treason that they will start a violent insurrection to stop it.
and how do you intend to “demand” that? if you mean withholding your vote until they cater to your specific view of the way things should be done you’re going to be waiting forever. and in the meantime republicans will keep fucking things up even worse.
Me, personally?
I’m going to help the union movement build a new left because I don’t think the Democrat party is worth saving.
and how are you going to vote? that’s the topic of discussion.
Doesn’t matter, even if I lived in a swing state, this election was decided months ago when Biden dropped out.
I used to think these kinds of comments were silly jokes. But, the more that the Dems just allow everything to slip rightwards, it seems like this is really their strategy, and I’m worried it’s not a joke.
Don’t worry, when the Republican party falls apart after Trump loses and the Democrats are the pro-fracking, pro-genocide right wing party there will be space for the union movement to assemble a new left coalition.
I hope all this actually happens, as the US would be a better place with serious political representation that isn’t different flavours of Conservative. But I won’t be surprised if it does not, plenty of people are happy to vote for bigotry.
I predicted this back in 2015 when the Democrats started openly conspiring against Bernie. If the 2024 dem incumbent dropped out, not only would Trump lose, but his loss will split the party and the infighting will destroy it.
Hate fuels Republicans into resisting infighting. They have someone else to hate more.
I worry that it’s the left which tends to infight themselves into irrelevance.
They do have something to hate more, their own loser selves after they fail to install Trump.
They will blame immigrants, gays, and feminists (especially childless women) first. That’s the unifying ‘strength’ of right-wing politics: ignorant hate.
The “unifying strength” of fascism is it’s enforcement of a hierarchy, and Trump’s supporters hate losers more than anyone else. When he loses, they are going to blame everyone but especially the “moderate” anti-Trump republicans. They’ll destroy their own party trying to root out the unfaithful.