“What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever.”

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    Lol, another Obama is exactly what is needed: a statesman and a diplomat, a rational person, someone who works to improve America rather tells fools that he is there for America but is actually only in it for himself and his mentor Putin. But America got to do America so…enjoy the shitshow.

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        Just one small correction: although the 2008 bank bailout did happen during Obama’s presidency, it was the Bush administration who created it and signed it into law. This is usually framed as Bush being a class act and doing it to spare Obama the blowback of having to do the same (back in the days when presidential class was still a thing), but it seems not to have worked, as everybody still blames Obama entirely.

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        I agree with almost all of this and even the parts I disagree with I agree in principle. There will never be someone who can reach level or power needed to actually do what you’re describing without being a very, very good liar. Because they are never reaching that position on merit and message alone. It’s not just republicans outnumbering us. It’s people who are indifferent outnumber republicans and democrats and progressives combined. And not performatively indifferent. I mean people who genuinely do not care and do not vote and never will vote no matter how bad their circumstances get. A rock bottom low enough to engage that many people can not exist in a world with drive thrus, cell phones, and air conditioning. There’s no way to make that many people uncomfortable enough to care without it already being too late.

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        Obama as the farthest left option when he was centrist at best.

        I remember the arguments I had in 2008 with my lefty friends when they kept saying Obama was the most liberal candidate. I’d go over each of their positions and showed my reasoning and they wouldn’t even consider what I said but instead would get emotional and insist he was more liberal.

        Hell, in his own book Obama talks about how Reagan was a huge role model for him.

        Obama is a great example of how charisma can put you over the top. And I love the guy, I just wish he had been a progressive and realized early on that the Republicans would never compromise on anything and that they were always working in bad faith.

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      Yeah, the same guy who killed two American citizens in Pakistan with no due process. The one that accepted a transparency award in a CLOSED meeting. The president that didn’t close gitmo. The one that expanded our wars to six countries. And remember how George Bush was spying on Americans by listening in on that fiber optic cable coming into the ATT center in California and how Obama stopped all of that? Oh, right he didn’t. In fact I believe it’s still going on. And Obama care, what a great idea. Force people to buy health insurance. What a great idea. So great the heritage foundation came up with it, you know the people who brought you Project 2025. People seem to think that just because he wasn’t Bush or Trump, he was great. I think they can all be shit.

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        Indirect result - racist reactions to a black President.

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      I’d like to point out that Obama is responsible for the most amount of deportations in the history of this country. And he bombed more of the middle east that bush. He’s still one of the greatest presidents in our history, but…

      Edit: I mean I’m sorry you don’t like established facts. He’s not Homelander but he’s not mother Theresa either.