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return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Tucker Carlson set to interview Vladimir Putin

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Tucker Carlson set to interview Vladimir Putin

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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Carlson would become the first member of the Western media to interview the Russian leader since Russia's invasion of Ukraine almost two years ago.
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    If you would be keeping up with the news you would’ve known that, they wanted to discuss neutrality,

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60901024

    but then peace negations have been stalled on the ukrainan side, per request of the Brits.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-must-not-be-pressured-into-bad-peace-deal-says-uk-pm-johnson-2022-06-07/

    And after that they forbade em by law.

    https://nypost.com/2022/10/04/zelensky-signs-law-declaring-talks-with-putin-impossible/

    Hence, no Putin alone cannot stop the war. There is still too much pressure on all sides to keep the war going.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2022/12/16/23507640/dc-party-invite-military-contractors-money-ukraine-russia-war-us

    While poor guys on both sides are paying the highest price for someones wallet to be bigger.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-uncovers-mass-fraud-weapons-procurement-security-service-2024-01-27/

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      Wait you’re telling me that Russia can’t pull out of the invasion they started because Boris Johnson said it would be illegal?

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        No not illegal. But how do you imagne it would happen?

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          How Russia would stop the invasion they started?

          Maybe leave Ukraine?

          I’m not sure I’m understanding what you’re asking.

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            Ok and what about the people who stay there? Civilians.

            https://www.politico.eu/article/in-ukraine-collaboration-cases-arent-always-clear-cut/

            https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/08/europe/ukraine-hunt-for-collaborators-intl/index.html

            https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-crimea-9da550b396f42cc267a4808bf99d5e6d

            Oops your passport expired, you cannot renew it as you are currently in occupied territory. Oops you are no longer a Ukrainian citizen so move out.

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/03/russia-forcing-ukrainian-passports-us-report

            Great, everyone who lives on the occupied territories looses everything, no police ( prob in prison for or executed), no judges, lawlessness, where random militarily March in without anyone to stop em, that and if we ignore the fact that there are alot of Nazis who hate East Ukrainians and Russians, under perfect conditions the civilans just would need to get out, without anything.

            And now imagne how many families would have someone in they’re familie who fought on the Russian side. ( as if you remember it was a civilwar 14-20 in the beginnng ).

            “Maybe leave Ukraine“, would not stop the war it would just put civilans on the front line.

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              So you are saying the invasion cannot be stopped or someone with an expired passport won’t be able to renew it? Okay then, I guess there is no other option but continue then…

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                No. Expired passport means they have to take the Russian one. And if you have a Russian passport you will be forced out.

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                  And if you have a Russian passport you will be forced out.

                  Says who exactly?

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                    Ukraines plans with Russian citizens if they win the war.

                    https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-crimea-9da550b396f42cc267a4808bf99d5e6d

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              There’s nothing stopping Ukraine from accepting them as citizens. But that is Ukraine’s decision to make, seeing as it’s their country. And yes, if they decide that illegal settlers should be kicked out, hell, why were they there to begin with?

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                why were they there to begin with?

                Because they lived there before the war.

                No, there is something stopping them from accepting them as citizens. The laws Ukraine has set in place.

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/03/russia-forcing-ukrainian-passports-us-report https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-crimea-9da550b396f42cc267a4808bf99d5e6d

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                  You must be a troll checking if anyone is reading the articles you linked, right? This has to be an elaborate joke, right?
                  Per the very article you linked:

                  The timeline continues ahead to July 2024, when, according to new Russian laws, residents without Russian citizenship would be considered “foreigners” or “stateless” and can be detained in detention facilities and/or deported to Russia.

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                    But thats, exactly what I ment?

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      Putin alone cannot stop the war

      He can stop the war because he can command Russian army to leave Ukraine.

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        OK and what about the civilans living there?

        Do you know that they now have Russian citizensship and under Ukrainian Law will be either put in prisons or forced out?

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          This is not something that can prevent Putin from removing army from a non Russian territory. If he is not an idiot, that is.

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            He removes Army. Innocent non combatants die due to chaos.

            Yes it is.

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              Putin withdrawing army from Ukraine will cause chaos instead of peaceful life - a chaos that would never happen if he continues killing people in this war.

              Sure grandma, now let’s get you to your bed.

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                OK. just look at real word examples of the US Afganistan withdrawal. How many civilans do you think got killed? How many deliberately? Rewatch the videos, there is enough videos of people fleeing from the approching army, ( wich noted, is supported by the majority of afganistan ) And dying in they’re attemnt. If you want that what happens in Kabul. You apperently don’t want what is good for.the civilans.

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                  Are you kidding? You are saying the war is good for civillians.

                  “Let me invade your country and hold your territories and people hostage so you’ll understand that if I stop the aggression then those people will most likely die. I will proceed with my aggression and hold more of your territories and people hostage, and you’ll thank me for keeping those people safe” - Putin, probably.

                  Disgusting

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