• TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    I’ll believe the economics are better when I’m not paying markedly more for everything in my life and my salary increases.

    The politicians are so wildly out of touch with the citizens.

    This idea that the data is “mistrusted” or “unseen” is ridiculous to the point of incredulity. I don’t care what the data says, I know what my lived experiences are and everything is getting wildly more expensive except my labor, it seems. Show me any study you want, it won’t change that groceries are 30%+ more expensive, my rent keeps going up, restaurants and bars have gotten nearly 50% or more pricier and my wage hasn’t grown to match.

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      I’ll admit I’m a high income earner. I’ve never had to watch watch what I spend but recently even I’ve noticed increases in everything.

      Groceries have doubled from what I paid in 2019. I buy almost the same thing every week and I compared.

      Dining out has become much more expensive. Places I used to consider a good value are now expensive.

      I ordered a basic meal the other day at a local place. A cheeseburger. Fries. Drink and my friend had a salad. It was almost 59 dollars. Six months ago it was around 30 dollars.

      So now I have to watch my spending as everything has increased

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        Dining out is CRAZY now.

        My wife and I were out and about last weekend and needed to eat so we hit a Burger King.

        Meals for 2, nothing crazy, was $30… at freaking BURGER KING. We don’t even have a sales tax here.

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          Workers wanted an increase in pay, so shareholders needed to offset that by even more. Workers can’t get a raise without shareholders getting a raise.

          Inflation is majority driven by profit, not wages. Dems barely attack that angle. Republicans actively work against it.

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              Shareholders provide economic value (it’s literally in the name) and are not rent-seeking by definition

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                  Shareholders are key investors and are the principal drivers of M&A and infrastructure investment.

                  Disagreeing with the idea that companies exist to drive shareholder returns does not change the actual purpose of shareholders, nor suddenly cause them to be rent-seekers.

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    10 months ago

    If everyone says they feel like the economy is bad, but the metrics say the economy is good, maybe the metrics are wrong or measuring the wrong things!

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      Possible; it’s also possible they’re believing lies being told to them by people who benefit from others having false beliefs.

      Information asymmetry often works to the benefit of employers and landlords, for example. If workers and tenants do have lots of options, but don’t believe they do, they’re more likely to settle for shitty jobs and housing.

      There’s a common lie told by upper managers in a lot of industries: “Our business is perpetually in danger; so we can’t afford to pay you more because then we will go out of business and you’ll all lose your jobs anyway.”

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        If workers and tenants do have lots of options, but don’t believe they do, they’re more likely to settle for shitty jobs and housing.

        If workers and tenants are settling for shitty jobs and housing, the economy is bad. It doesn’t matter if they technically have lots of options because the economy is structured to make them feel like they don’t.

        Capitalism working as intended 👍

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          The weird thing is, these information asymmetries make capitalism less efficient than it would be with less asymmetry. They don’t serve the interests of capital; they serve the interests of management.

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            We’ve stopped being capitalist a long time ago. Now we have corporate feudalism. We prop up old companies, tamp down on startups, and do our best to make sure companies make most of their money from rent seeking.

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            Marx characterized this as “anarchy of production” - without centralize control, the whims of the market inevitably undermine economic growth. It’s what causes the boom and bust cycles.

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              I think Marx also underestimated the class interest of the managerial class, which shows up rather vividly in actually-existing socialisms as well. Principal/agent problems are a doozy.

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                Maybe.

                I think Marx underestimated the class divisions created by colonialism between colonizers and the colonized. It turns out that settlers could be bribed with the superprofits created through the superexploitation of colonized people. It took later theorizing by Lenin and Mao and Fanon and Du Bois to advance theory to that point.