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    9 months ago

    I’m still going to vote Biden though because I know about project 2025 and know that we will probably get genocided in our own country if he loses. It sucks but that’s how I feel.

    Instead of picking between a genocide and another you should just vote for someone else and don’t support any criminal.

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      9 months ago

      Stein says that Russia had no other choice but to invade Ukraine and commit genocide there, and Cornel West has a similar position I believe.

      If you don’t want to vote for a genocide apologist, you basically can’t vote.

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        9 months ago

        >Stein says that Russia had no other choice but to invade Ukraine and commit genocide there, and Cornel West has a similar position I believe.

        neither of them said this. your comment is straight misinformation.

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          9 months ago

          https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/1629226431006875651?lang=en

          “So yes, Russia illegally invaded Ukraine – but did so with a gun to its head, or in this case, nuclear-compatible missiles. Compared to the US mobilization for immediate nuclear war when roles were reversed w Russian nukes in Cuba, this response was relatively moderate.”

          She’s went with the old “but NATO would be right there!” argument, which is pro imperialist apologia.

          EDIT: I forgot Dr. West.

          https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/biden-war-criminal-cornel-west/

          “When it comes to Ukraine, we must grasp the implications of NATO expansion and its potential to escalate into a catastrophic conflict,” West stated. He called for an end to the war in Ukraine and urged diplomatic negotiations to ensure both Russian security and Ukrainian freedom.”

          Once again, a pro imperialist argument that Ukraine isn’t allowed to do what it wants because it would piss off it’s former colonizer. And a pro imperialist argument that we know better than Ukraine and they should stop fighting because we said so, even though they want to keep fighting.

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            9 months ago

            calling for an end of the war is not pro-russian. you are providing evidence against your own position and then lying about what the evidence says.

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              9 months ago

              It certainly is if Ukraine wants to continue fighting to reclaim their own land.

              Let Ukraine decide, and support them in whatever their decision is.

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                9 months ago

                i’m an anarchist, and i don’t believe states should exist at all. there are people living in the region called ukraine. i want them to live without any government, russian or ukranian.

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              9 months ago

              Yes because surrendering to genocidal maniacs is the “anti war” position.

              And in this case, being anti NATO is being pro imperialist. Russia is angry that a former colony is going against them. NATO is supporting the colony against their former colonizers. Suggesting that the colonists stop fighting and do whatever the colonizers want is pro imperialism, and it’s what Stein and West are supporting.

              No support for Israel. No support for Russia. No support for colonizers. Any “leftist” against Palestinian and Ukrainian aid is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.