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    My point is that his coming in here saying “genocide is bad!” is meeting with 0 resistance but instead full throated agreement from everybody, yet he’s still claiming there must be pro genocide people, I guess implying that is the only reason anyone could possibly disagree with him on other issues, or accuse him of being a Russian plant (*), is that they like genocide and for no factual well reasoned reason

    (*) Or, more generally, dishonest; I have no idea if he’s Russian specifically or not

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      My point is that his coming in here saying “genocide is bad!” is meeting with 0 resistance

      What unmitigated horseshit. You dare call me dishonest after posting this lie. I’ve attracted the attention of lemmy’s two most strident supporters of Netanyahu’s genocide. I don’t like mentioning downvotes, but you brought up resistance. Have a look at how many genocide loving centrists took personal offense at my speculation about Pelosi and downvoted me.

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        So then I said, you’re conflating someone disagreeing with you which lots of people do for valid reasons, with supporting genocide which pretty much no one on Lemmy does.

        And then you said, how DARE you say no one supports genocide when so many people are disagreeing with me, which by definition means they’re pro genocide.

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          So then I said, you’re conflating someone disagreeing with you which lots of people do for valid reasons, with supporting genocide which pretty much no one on Lemmy does.

          They don’t tell me their “valid reasons.” They just scream the usual garbage “Russian Chinese Tankie Republican child shill bot” shit that centrists say when they can’t actually argue their point.

          What “valid reasons” are there to support the continued sales of weapons that are being used for genocide?

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            So then I said, dude no one’s actually supporting genocide

            And then you said la la la, I can’t HEEAR you, they’re such bad unreasonable people all these people in the thread who love Israel’s war and want the weapons flow to continue, like look at the top 3 comments in this thread for example and see how not at all unanimous is the “genocide bad” consensus, that’s totally exactly why people are downvoting me is because they love love love genocide sooooo much

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              What “valid reasons” are there to support the continued sales of weapons that are being used for genocide?

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                It’s like if a tumblr reading comprehension meme came to life after wishing to become a real boy

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                  I say “Biden should stop supporting genocide.”

                  Centrists respond with false accusations, abuse, condescension, dismissal, and gaslighting. They do not respond with their “valid reasons” for disagreeing with “Biden should stop supporting genocide,” but they certainly make it clear that they hate anyone who says it.

                  What conclusion should I draw from that other than “centrists support genocide”?

                  I know you’re going to try to limit the scope of discussion to this thread alone, as though my original comment wasn’t based on the broader context of centrists calling people who want Biden to stop selling weapons that he knows will be used for genocide “russian.”

                  If you claim that you’ve never seen it happen anywhere on lemmy, you’re lying.

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                    Okay let’s try a little different approach

                    So take a look at something like this – this person is saying Biden supports genocide and that’s bad, and only that, and they’re getting almost unanimous upvotes and only one comment, which is agreement.

                    In contrast, your comments which say Biden supports genocide and also saying some additional statements in addition, don’t get the same reception.

                    What do you think is the difference? Why did people like this person’s post so much, if being against genocide in your world is this wildly unpopular maverick stance to take within Lemmy politics?

                    (Edit: Made more polite)