Obama inherited two illegal wars and a financial implosion, his goal was to divest from those wars with the minimum amount of USAF casualties, and opted for drones.
What was he supposed to do, just a full scale military retreat? That would have been a hundred times worse.
I hate this single one criticism against Obama that the right always pushes, because he did what best he could being handed a complete clusterfuck of a geopolitical situation.
All of that blame rests firmly on the side of the Republicans.
Yes, you can withdraw from an occupation of another country at any time. Nobody is forcing you to be there. It just might liss of the people making the money for you to leave. But hey, it’s only brown kids dying, am I right!? Who cares about that.
You’re right - Obama had no choice but to drone strike Pakistanis based on if they sit down or stand up when they pee. Makes total sense, peace prize earned, fist bump that great guy.
He got the peace prize for being the first black president, breaking an over two hundred year old taboo in a nation priding itself on its liberty, if not its history of slavery and violence. It was a coming to terms, a reckoning, and it was, and it is.
If we are talking about geopolitics, yeah no, you don’t start with a fresh board when you become president. You’re knee deep in shit that’s been accumulating for a century, you have alliances, you have covert ops, you have wars, you have puppet dictators, you have vested economic interests as a matter of being responsible for the nation’s continued existence- most of which was built on slavery, military power, subterfuge, assassinations, uncomfortable alliances, and a vast network of tentacles controlling global industrial infrastructures.
Yeah, you don’t just get to say “we’re not gonna do this anymore”, because the USA is way in too deep at this point. There were literally military engagements going on at that point that you couldn’t just withdraw from without creating way more chaos and destruction.
You have to see it from that perspective. It’s disingenuous pointing at what is in the greater scope genuine details in how the USA has been waging foreign politics for the past century.
It was much better than what the Republicans had done if they had stayed in power. Obama did what he could with what he had and he did a shitload of good, but it’s ridiculous suggesting there is any semblance of equivalence between him and the people who created the wars for profit that enriched the Bush dynasty and their cronies.
Lots of excuses here. For skin color? For having a hard job?
He signed off on drone strikes targeting people based on how they were peeing. That was all the intel they had on these people and they reined down hell. On multiple people every week, for years, for his entire presidency.
That’s not a military engagement. He’s a murderer. Don’t make excuses for a murderer.
I hate this single one criticism against Obama that the right always pushes, because he did what best he could being handed a complete clusterfuck of a geopolitical situation.
Apologize for their capitulation to the military industrial complex more. It was a situation the US created and which Obama extended. Needlessly. Did they 8 additional years they extended the war help Iraq or hurt Iraq? Did it help Afghanistan or hurt Afghanistan. Did it help the US or hurt the US?
This is baby brain level liberalism. You should change your handle.
Be less of a fucking shitty liberal and I wonʻt have to slap you around so much. Fucking citing the name of our lord anarchism and then defending a fucking liberal war criminal. Go fucking pay your taxes.
Obama inherited two illegal wars and a financial implosion, his goal was to divest from those wars with the minimum amount of USAF casualties, and opted for drones.
What was he supposed to do, just a full scale military retreat? That would have been a hundred times worse.
I hate this single one criticism against Obama that the right always pushes, because he did what best he could being handed a complete clusterfuck of a geopolitical situation.
All of that blame rests firmly on the side of the Republicans.
Yes, you can withdraw from an occupation of another country at any time. Nobody is forcing you to be there. It just might liss of the people making the money for you to leave. But hey, it’s only brown kids dying, am I right!? Who cares about that.
You’re right - Obama had no choice but to drone strike Pakistanis based on if they sit down or stand up when they pee. Makes total sense, peace prize earned, fist bump that great guy.
He got the peace prize for being the first black president, breaking an over two hundred year old taboo in a nation priding itself on its liberty, if not its history of slavery and violence. It was a coming to terms, a reckoning, and it was, and it is.
If we are talking about geopolitics, yeah no, you don’t start with a fresh board when you become president. You’re knee deep in shit that’s been accumulating for a century, you have alliances, you have covert ops, you have wars, you have puppet dictators, you have vested economic interests as a matter of being responsible for the nation’s continued existence- most of which was built on slavery, military power, subterfuge, assassinations, uncomfortable alliances, and a vast network of tentacles controlling global industrial infrastructures.
Yeah, you don’t just get to say “we’re not gonna do this anymore”, because the USA is way in too deep at this point. There were literally military engagements going on at that point that you couldn’t just withdraw from without creating way more chaos and destruction.
You have to see it from that perspective. It’s disingenuous pointing at what is in the greater scope genuine details in how the USA has been waging foreign politics for the past century.
It was much better than what the Republicans had done if they had stayed in power. Obama did what he could with what he had and he did a shitload of good, but it’s ridiculous suggesting there is any semblance of equivalence between him and the people who created the wars for profit that enriched the Bush dynasty and their cronies.
Lots of excuses here. For skin color? For having a hard job?
He signed off on drone strikes targeting people based on how they were peeing. That was all the intel they had on these people and they reined down hell. On multiple people every week, for years, for his entire presidency.
That’s not a military engagement. He’s a murderer. Don’t make excuses for a murderer.
Not very.
Apologize for their capitulation to the military industrial complex more. It was a situation the US created and which Obama extended. Needlessly. Did they 8 additional years they extended the war help Iraq or hurt Iraq? Did it help Afghanistan or hurt Afghanistan. Did it help the US or hurt the US?
This is baby brain level liberalism. You should change your handle.
löl you are not a tropical ding dong!
It was a situation that BUSH and cronies created, for profit, that shook the global economy to its core. That’s what Obama inherited.
But you’re literally just “both sidesing” this shit, are you a .ml user or something?
Reads like something someone with a not immeasurable blood lead level would think.
no U r stupid
great arguments here. My point is proven.
Be less of a fucking shitty liberal and I wonʻt have to slap you around so much. Fucking citing the name of our lord anarchism and then defending a fucking liberal war criminal. Go fucking pay your taxes.