Jon Stewart mocked both President Biden and former President Trump during his return to “The Daily Show,” saying both 2024 candidates are “stretching the limits of being able to h…
When I say “Trump is eroding our democracy,” most people - including you - understand what I’m driving at.
I agree with Stewart on that point:
Come Election Day, Stewart said, “If your guy loses, bad things might happen, but the country is not over. And if your guy wins, the country is in no way saved.”
Trump is not going to end voting if he gets reelected, and voter suppression and disenfranchisement by Republicans existed long before Trump and will continue long after Trump.There is nothing that Trump is going to fundamentally change about our government.
It will be very bad if he gets elected, but the country is not over, and using hyperbolic language that implies otherwise, like “This is a question of whether democracy dies in America.” (which is what the commenter I initially responded to said), is just being used to deflect from very important and valid criticism of the alternatives. More importantly, it runs the danger of creating voter fatigue; not every election can be an exceptional, emergency situation, and all of Trump’s runner-ups like DeSantis and Ramaswamy, are all running the same playbook.
If the only way for America and/or Democracy not to die is for Republicans to never again become president, it’s already lost, because we’re in a duopoly with them (which the DNC is actively working to maintain), and it is an eventuality.
You inserted yourself into a conversation I was having, in which the other person (P03 Locke) was disputing Stewart’s assertion that the country would not be over, and asserting that
This is a question of whether democracy dies in America.
That is the context in which I felt it is necessary to define Democracy.
You then jumped in and said
When I say “Trump is eroding our democracy,”
Despite the fact you had not actually said that previously, and that it is a different stance from what P03 Locke said. They never asserted Trump was eroding it, they said he would be killing it.
I didn’t say you can’t participate, but you jumped into a thread in which 2 people were discussing whether the country and democracy were going to come to an end, and then immediately said, “well I never said anything about the end of democracy”. That’s cool, but it’s completely irrelevant to the discussion that P03 Locke and I were having.
I also note that you have no response to any of the actual points I made, so I’ll assume you have nothing to add.
Lastly, I’d love to see which parts of my comment you consider “an entitled tantrum”. Is it just the fact I pointed out that you introduced an unrelated point and then acted as though I’d been arguing against it? Because that’s definitely a ‘you’ problem.
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I agree with Stewart on that point:
Trump is not going to end voting if he gets reelected, and voter suppression and disenfranchisement by Republicans existed long before Trump and will continue long after Trump.There is nothing that Trump is going to fundamentally change about our government.
It will be very bad if he gets elected, but the country is not over, and using hyperbolic language that implies otherwise, like “This is a question of whether democracy dies in America.” (which is what the commenter I initially responded to said), is just being used to deflect from very important and valid criticism of the alternatives. More importantly, it runs the danger of creating voter fatigue; not every election can be an exceptional, emergency situation, and all of Trump’s runner-ups like DeSantis and Ramaswamy, are all running the same playbook.
If the only way for America and/or Democracy not to die is for Republicans to never again become president, it’s already lost, because we’re in a duopoly with them (which the DNC is actively working to maintain), and it is an eventuality.
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You inserted yourself into a conversation I was having, in which the other person (P03 Locke) was disputing Stewart’s assertion that the country would not be over, and asserting that
That is the context in which I felt it is necessary to define Democracy.
You then jumped in and said
Despite the fact you had not actually said that previously, and that it is a different stance from what P03 Locke said. They never asserted Trump was eroding it, they said he would be killing it.
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I didn’t say you can’t participate, but you jumped into a thread in which 2 people were discussing whether the country and democracy were going to come to an end, and then immediately said, “well I never said anything about the end of democracy”. That’s cool, but it’s completely irrelevant to the discussion that P03 Locke and I were having.
I also note that you have no response to any of the actual points I made, so I’ll assume you have nothing to add.
Lastly, I’d love to see which parts of my comment you consider “an entitled tantrum”. Is it just the fact I pointed out that you introduced an unrelated point and then acted as though I’d been arguing against it? Because that’s definitely a ‘you’ problem.