“We need to shut the border.… The president could take executive action to do it today—doesn’t need more money. It needs action, and this is what’s disappointing to people, and that’s why Mayorkas is gonna pay this public relations price by being impeached for the first time since 1876,” Hill said.
Notably absent from Hill’s explanation was any description of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by Mayorkas. Hill all but admitted that, with the impeachment, Republicans are aiming to make Mayorkas the face of their anti-Biden, anti-immigrant campaign, despite his having not committed impeachable offenses.”
Jordan Klepper did a segment on The Daily Show last night (it’s on YouTube) where he talked to Trump people and they want a dictator or a king. They come right out and say it.
And im sure they all still fancy themselves “patriots”.
To be fair, most Democrats do too. They just want a dictator that is going to do the things they want, like banning certain forms of speech, or taxing billionaires out of existence.
Not many people really, truly want a lost constitutional framework where a consensus needs to be reached, and compromises made, in order to do things.
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The user doth projects too much.
It seems like they drink their own Kool aid on the both sides isms that they get worked up and think it’s a race. I only want a dictator because they do too, and I’ve got to get my guy in first.
I don’t want ANY dictators. I don’t want a president that can just make decrees because congress is deadlocked, regardless of whether or not I agree with those presidential decrees!
I’m agreeing with you, that last part is a projection of people who think that way
“They” being the majority of Americans. We want a constitutional framework that benefits everyone, not just a select few. That’s not wanting a dictatorship, it’s quite the opposite. Democrats and Republicans Are. Not. The. Same.
Democrats aren’t the ones on a book banning crusade.
Nice attempt at a both-sides though.
I can not tell you how many times I’ve had to explain to liberals that there is no hate-speech exception to 1A, and that yes, advocating for genocide of the Jews is legally-protected speech that the gov’t can not censor.
Yes, you can legally say almost anything you want as an opinion (defamation is a thing however). Court of public opinion is totally different, and the public can totally choose to “cancel” you if they wish.
These guys always crack me up. They want their racial epithets and hate speech, and also want to be protected from any and all consequences of using such speech.
Hey, idiots - free speech does not mean freedom from consequences. There are always consequences for your actions. Get it through your thick skull, it’s shitty and wrong to be racist, and people will not like you for being racist when you act out, period.
I can’t believe this isn’t well understood but here we are. Fuckin snowflakes.
Of course. And that’s fine, I’ve got no objection to that at all. If I say something that’s deeply offensive and hateful, of course I deserve to be censured by people.
And yeah, I’ve been banned from Twitter and Reddit; the former for advocating the guillotining of billionaires, and the former for suggesting arson as a solution to Nazis. They’re both privately-owned spaces, and so that’s fine.
But that’s not what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about legitimate government censorship, and criminal penalties for politically unpopular speech. We’ve seen that in, for instance, in anti-BDS laws, which have passed in both Republican and Democratic states, and we’re seeing it with Republicans censoring what books libraries can have, and Dems trying to censor what children can see on Facebook.
Do any of them hold an elected office?
I’ll take some randos on the Internet against genocide vs actual elected officials trying to ban pronouns any day of the week.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Republicans ban pronouns&ko=-1&ia=web
Both sides are not the same no matter how badly you want to pretend they are.
The fuck you talkin about. Gtfo with that democrats do too.
Why do you believe this to be the case?
Don’t engage with bad faith arguments.
Okay, let’s start. I’ll address things that are solely covered under the Bill of Rights, either enumerated or implied.
A not insignificant number of liberal Democrats believe that speech they believe to be hateful should not be legally permissible. Things like, Fox News shouldn’t be allowed to broadcast, Nazis shouldn’t be allowed to hold rallies, etc. I’ve had the argument many, many times that there is no “hate speech” exception to 1A, and there shouldn’t be, since it was intended to protect unpopular and dangerous speech (…such as sedition against the king). (ETA - Many Dems actively mock the idea of freedom of speech/press/etc, e.g. “freeze peach”. Yes, the solution to free speech is more free speech).
A very large number of liberal Democrats believe that individual ownership of firearms should be banned or restricted to the point where it’s effectively banned. Gun control and support for wholesale bans is literally part of the party platform.
Certain Democratic majority states have passed laws preventing people that are protesting reproductive rights from getting too close to people using the clinics, or the clinics themselves.
I’ve absolutely seen liberal Democrats say that certain religious expression and practice by individuals and religious institutions should be banned under penalty of law, notably treatment of LGBTQ+ people by conservative religions. See also: “‘hate speech’ exception to 1A”.
Keep in mind that I do largely vote Democratic in national and state-level elections, but I’m personally more of a libertarian socialist. I vote Democratic because they’re more likely to do most of the things I want than Republicans.