“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” the president told CNN’s Erin Burnett.
President Joe Biden said in an interview Wednesday he is all but certain Donald Trump, his predecessor and presumptive 2024 rival, will reject the results of the November election and called Trump “dangerous” for the nation.
“The guy is not a democrat with a small d,” Biden told CNN’s Erin Burnett during a visit to Wisconsin this week.
“How many court cases do they have, Supreme Court cases? They’ve all said this is a totally legitimate election. … He may not accept the outcome of the election? I promise you he won’t. Which is dangerous.”
The president went on to say other world leaders had expressed to him their fear of a second Trump presidency and pointed to Trump’s pledge to prosecute his political opponents if he enters the Oval Office once more.
My dude, fascism is here, it doesn’t just have its foot in the door it’s sitting in the living room wiping its ass with Biden’s throw pillows. Genocide is already being carried out in your name.
People need to start getting into a resistance and preparation mindset, not thinking Biden’s going to help reverse our course towards fascism. There’s a long road of direct action ahead if people hope to turn the ship. Lesser of two evils isn’t cutting it, they’re both leading us to the same place
Then you’d concede that if they are leading us to different places, lesser of two evils does cut it.
You’re playing chess. You have a choice - lose a pawn, or you can keep the pawn and the next move you’ll lose by checkmate. I dunno about you, but I’m saying goodbye to that pawn.
That’s the choice, except instead of keeping the pawn you lose it anyway because Trump likes Israel even more. Biden wins, there will be a different Democratic nominee in 2028. And if you want it to be someone more in line with your thinking than Biden, well you know what you gotta do in 2028.
But if Trump wins, he’s gonna do everything in his power to make sure the choice in 2028 is his and not yours. Not stopping him is game over.
Exactly. OK, we get Biden again. Now use the next 4 years to REALLY push … for ranked voting, age limits for reps, or anything! Because you still can.
I’d say it needs to be sooner than ‘28, more like as soon as the election is over
No, like chess, at a certain point it becomes clear that you’ve lost the game you’re playing. It doesn’t matter if you save your metaphorical pawn or not in this scenario, delaying with the lesser of two evils will not create any further opportunities to turn things around.
It is the end game, and it turns out that the using the lesser of two evils as a strategy for the past 7, 8, 9 election cycles has been a definiteively losing strategy. It has produced no favorable results, instead it has simply allowed fascism to creep in at a pace which the general public will acclimate to it. And once the majority is acclimated, there is nothing that anyone who cares can do.
Instead, you should not be playing a game with rules rigged by two parties, neither of whom actually have an interest or will to preserve democracy. Instead you should be turning the board over and refusing to play
Voting for the lesser of two evils has been the strategy since day 1. In 1860 both Lincoln and his opponent Douglas wanted to keep slavery (Lincoln only wanted to limit its spread), and worse, only some Americans were allowed to vote. Forget the far left, a modern moderate might refuse to vote at all in that election - why vote for Lincoln if you’re voting for someone who wants to keep something as abhorrent as slavery?
Yet voting for Lincoln nevertheless did move the needle against slavery and eventually led to its abolition. And voting for people we’d almost certainly see today as the lesser evil eventually would lead also to improvements in worker rights, universal suffrage, social security and medicare, ending segregation, gay rights, and the right to abortion - before refusing to vote for the lesser of two evils took that away.
It’s your right not to vote. But what happens - or doesn’t - is your responsibility.
What about all the struggle and violence that directly led to those outcomes? The moderates who presided over those changes didn’t enact them out of the love of the game, they were compelled to in order to put a stop to the unrest.
You understand the needle didn’t move because of moderates and voting the lesser of two evils, right? Every major shift in progress in this country was accompanied by protest, conflict and refusal to go along with the status quo.
oh great. here come all the shitty yeye ass takes
ROFL… this is exactly what I’m talking about. Thanks for illustrating my point. You couldn’t have done it better.
There may have been people that weren’t aware of what I was talking about.
Why do Biden Bros get so offended that people don’t want to live in a make believe world where they’re happy to vote for Biden? No where did they say that won’t vote for him over Trump.
None is asking anyone to be happy about it. And there’s no “Biden bro” here. Stop making assumptions about people you know nothing about.
You don’t say…?
Check my comment history. See where I’ve said anything resembling being one.
And don’t confuse my suggesting people vote to stop a traitor from returning. Or when I said not voting is fucking stupid.
Go ahead now… come back with some copy/posts validating your stupid accusation.
Since you need me to explain the joke, here it is.
It comes across as you making the assumption, “there are no biden bros in this thread”.
You then say not to make assumptions about people you know nothing about.
So unless you know everyone in this thread, you are making an assumption about people who you know nothing about.
It’s comedic.
Because there are no Biden bros in this thread. You’re thinking that people suggesting other vote for Biden makes them a Biden bro…
That’s a YOU problem.
I’m not invested in the thread whatsoever. I made a joke about your comment and you are once again making assumptions about people you know nothing about.
Really sounds like a you problem.
Right here:
The irony here is you’re the one who doesn’t understand the situation we’re actually in.
The house is on fire and you’re telling people “Don’t worry guys, if we just stay in the kitchen there’s no fire here so it’ll be ok. It’s vitally important everyone stay in the kitchen, don’t listen to that extremist firefighter telling you to leave the building. Quick, someone grab that sieve, we can use it to splash water from the sink on the fire, we can save the house if we all just grab a sieve!”
Cool little analogy. But there’s no house and no fire. And I’m not telling anyone anything other than not to listen to propagandists that are suggesting that not voting is an expression of anything other than supporting a Trump victory.
Everyone knows what all of you are about. Check your ratios man. You lost this battle.
Because no updoots means you’re wrong and bad and should go away 😠
It’s more about be a socialist/far leftist and having your abject ignorance downvoted while on a socialist/far left platform.
It’s the equivalent of a MAGA clown being downvoted on Truth Social.
Fix your shit.
So, lemmy.world and all of its federated communities are far left now? And you want to talk about ignorance?
Believe it or not, internet points are not always very meaningful.
LEMMY is a far left social media site dude. Maybe take the time to know the thing you’re actively using before you think to argue against it.
You realize that people can also go vote for Trump too, right? Do you understand that? Do you understand that “go vote” does not mean your man is the target?
Taking no action in a genocidal cult-for-a-government is better than taking action for what either side believes is the right side.
Back off of fascism for a second and respect people’s autonomy. None of us asked for be a part of this half-baked, misguided mechanism, but we have a choice to stop using it. You have no right to say otherwise.
A no-vote IS a vote.
ROFL! Every election year there people like you. And every year, they get more and more stubborn and unreasonable.
THIS is what you’re getting with your non vote.
Did you really just link me to NBC news?
How are so many people still plugged in to this nonsense?
Do people really still believe that space age nations with access to AI, nuclear, and semiconductor technologies should follows the dramas of individual human leaders?
Does this primitive practice really, actually appeal to people? Are you people actually real? You actually care about the sayings and doings of clearly theatrical and phony leaders?
There is no such thing as a leader of 300 million people, you understand this, right?
The dog and pony show of elections is a theater of puppets orchestrated by a global elite that owns the US government and most governments of the world.
Do you know how easy it is to capture the soul of a single meat and bones, weak human entity with a family and a physical time and place?
Do you know how easy it is to capture 10,000 souls? How many representatives and senators do you have again?
ALL of them are captured.
Most with money.
The more stubborn ones, with blackmail. Some of them are so principled and stubborn they would rather die than compromise their values. But those ones have sons, daughters, husbands and wives, mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, and while they won’t compromise for their own lives, they do compromise for the lives of those they love.
You have no clue, do you, the reality of this world? You have no idea of the evil hidden in plain sight within the hearts of man?
Your “government” fell a very long time ago.
I give up. It’s pointless talking with you people. Go ahead and not vote thinking tote going to fix things.
See for totaled how that’s fixed thing s in the past- because every fucking election year, there’s people like you pulling this shit.
You people love talking about status quo….
There it is. YOU are part of status quo. Sooo… don’t vote man. Make that chance you want to see by doing nothing. Someone is getting elected without your involvement.
Blocking you now because i Don’t deal with unreasonable people and I don’t believe they deserve to be heard.
Your political strategy has failed though, again and again and again. Why the hell should anyone listen to you when people following your prescription in the past, is what produced the very situation we find ourselves in?
Listen-
If you don’t vote, someone is still getting elected. Because that is how elections work. Not voting doesn’t make the bad things go away.
And folding your arms and pouting, hoping that that the other guy winning sends a message will only end VERY poorly for a lot of people- and the message will fall on deaf ears. Because that is how it works. You’re not NEARLY as relevant as you think you are as a collective. Because you’ve already been counted as a non-vote. They know every election year that SJWs aren’t going to vote. It’s already factored in.
But if you DO vote, you can help ensure that something exponentially worse doesn’t happen.
Then, over the next four years you can get off your ass and actually do something that will matter come 2028. Or, you could just do as your lot does, and not give a fuck until the election year and then suddenly become outraged by whatever is happening then.
Either way… your call. You’re not making the waves you think you are. You never do. Remember Bernie? How’d that work for you? And you people were actually TRYING then. Hell, I donated several hundred dollars to his campaign when I could.
You’ll learn, or you won’t.
Look, it’s really important that you understand this; what you’re doing right now, this political strategy, is an abject failure. People have done things just how you’re arguing, have gone along with it for literally decades it it has failed. So the only reason I can think that you continue is because you want that failure to continue.
Also, you can’t on one hand write an entire essay of a response to something and then claim it’s no big deal and “not making waves”. Remember Clinton? How’d that work out for you?
Your suggestion to fix this failure of a system is literally “do nothing”. Please try to recognise that: You are advocating for fighting the status quo by doing nothing.
It will not work. If you want change you need to take action. Not voting is the exact opposite of attempting to change things. Use the influence you have to push for a change in the right direction.
Who said do nothing? I’m saying your suggestion of continually rewarding corporate dems with power has failed.
If your political strategy has brought us to the point where we’re literally condoning genocide with our vote then it’s a failure. You understand that, right? If the Chosen One the Dem establishment has forced on us is nevk and neck with Donald Trump then that establishment is a failure and continuing to reward them with power for these pied piper bullshit strategies is not going to lead to progress.
They’ve been doing it for forty years and all we’ve gotten for it is a tightening noose around our freedoms as they jerk off to corporate lobby money and insider trading, playing grab ass with fascists.
That’s your “progress”.
You’re part of the problem, not the solution. Single issue nonvoters got us Trump once already. Now you’re about to do it again.
And just like in 2016, you’ll all disappear when it comes time to own up to it.
THIS is what you’re getting with your non vote.
Right, instead we… should hop right through the meat grinder door? Why, because quicker death?