• ccunning@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I’m not saying you want Trump. I’m saying doing what you’re doing isn’t helpful.

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      3 days ago

      And what you’re doing isn’t helpful either. We can’t just ignore what is happening and continue to push forward with an obviously problematic candidate.

      The Dollar Store dictator is dead even with the dementia patient – this is not acceptable. Any alternative candidate (for either party) would be a massive improvement, at this point. Stop denying it.

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        3 days ago

        I’m not denying it. I’m saying having an actual plan in the really-real world where we’re all going to the polls to vote in 4 months is necessary. I personally can’t imagine a plan that doesn’t start with a Biden endorsement but I am receptive to ideas.

        If there isn’t a real live actual viable plan that can be executed; where enough voters can rally around the plan and candidate and not be butt-hurt and vengeful that their primary vote is being discarded and show up at the polls to vote for democracy then Trump will win.

        And until that plan is made and executed whinging about Biden isn’t helpful. We all saw the debate. We know the situation.

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          I think that it isn’t unrealistic for the Biden campaign to transition to the Kamala campaign, or Whitmer campaign, or Newsom campaign etc etc. and recycle much of extent infrastructure there. It just requires Biden to do what’s right for the country and hand over the keys.

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          3 days ago

          In the eternal words of Mike Tyson, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” Biden’s debate performance was a punch in America’s face.

          I agree that we need a NEW plan, but we cannot just stick to the old plan and old candidate, simply because somebody’s feelings might get hurt. We have not yet held either convention, so there is time to find and coalesce around a new candidate.

          No one is saying this situation is ideal, but considering the recent SCOTUS rulings and geopolitical sentiments, we cannot just continue to ignore that something is undeniably wrong with Biden.

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            3 days ago

            I think we largely agree. I’m just saying the old plan is the best plan we have until there is a new plan.

            You can’t burn the bridge until after you cross the river.

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              3 days ago

              Same, but my friend, our bridge is already on fire. So what do we do now?