I don’t want to defend trump, but does the article author he linked to, know what that is?
Thr article seems to just talk about saying trump wants to make the army “tougher” more “formidable” with ads not focusing on the diversity of the army, its many missons and soldiers but just in raw individual “masculine” strength.
Yes, a military formed on that sort of ethos can be persumed to work agianst anyone not vehemently masculine, physically and mentally,
It doesn’t seem the author or trump knew the meaning of the symbol.
Any other newspaper should know better. The Washington Times doesn’t want to know better, because “I didn’t know” is a very convenient excuse when you publish Nazi shit every day.
I don’t want to defend trump, but does the article author he linked to, know what that is?
It doesn’t seem the author or trump knew the meaning of the symbol.
You may be totally right, sincerely, but also, its funny how each and every time the ‘Nazi accusation’ comes up that it can be potentially hand-waved away/excused as a simple mistake/misunderstanding, almost like if someone is doing that on purpose so that they can still signal but have an ‘out’ for the signaling. The President of the United States of America should be the LAST person to make those kind of mistakes.
Also drives up conflict so that people are not looking at “what the other hand is doing”.
Also, once you did one accidental Nazism, someone who’s very opposed to Nazis would double-check every future statement to make sure they didn’t do that again. You can’t make that mistake twice and plead ignorance.
Eh somewhat, In this day and age every symbol has some meaning and most people might not know it. but also trump wouldnt care, he isn’t opposed to nazis.
Agian my comment wasn’t saying trump wasn’t a nazi, just in this one case he, and the author, seemed to not know the meaning of the symbol. but trump would love a toxicly macho army to oppress gays, so he when/if he finds out he wouldn’t care.
This applies just fine to the author, who has presumably not been publicly castigated for using Nazi symbolism, but it does not apply to Trump, who has. So he either is not opposed to Nazis so he didn’t make any effort to avoid repeating the error or intentionally promoting Nazis, and we shouldn’t view those traits as meaningfully different.
I’m sorry, but no. The author, as a journalist, posting to a publication with editors, does not get a pass about using a very, VERY well known symbol of the Holocaust.
Particularly in a time where the comparisons to that era are flying fast and furious, even if they somehow managed to be that poor a student of history that they somehow missed that, they should have taken the time to at least brush up on that period.
The author knew exactly what they posted and their editors who let it through did too.
Oh, trump is clearly a hiitler fanboy, and he shows this clearly on a daily basis, yes. This is one the rare occasion he might have not known what he was sharing. Of course if the article was about using the army to put gays in concentration camps, im sure he would still support it.
I don’t know anyone at my work who might recognize that symbol. It looks like an article saying trump want a an army like russia, a toxicly masculine dictator machine. This doesn’t make me think less of trump, 8 years ago when he talked about bombing innocents, I knew he was scum and maybe he crazy.
Agian I’m not defending his character, but the yahoo article reeks of ai slop and it just feels like its made to hate for hate sake.
Yeah, society has fallen everyone is out to hate, no one cares to think and form structured opinion, just spouting hateful rhetoric,
and
yes
I know one side is trying to kill innocents while the other is trying to kill the people vying for thier death.
and really, people think trump is smart enough to use critical thinking and inference to read between the lines and make a conclusion that isn’t spoon fed to him?
It’s a Washington Times op, not the Washington Post. It is not an “ai slop yahoo article”, but Snopes article aggregated on Yahoo News.
Like you’re trying to attack the credibility of these criticisms while seemingly being completely unaware of who wrote them or who they’re responding to.
The stuff on yahoo, seems like ai slop, it keeps repeating the same thing, maybe that’s how the yahoo aggregate works idk, im not familiar with it. I was not attacking the Washington post op, I said whats linked, the yahoo thing feels like what id expect from an ai generated article and the Washington post opinion piece didn’t seem to read so much about “gays in concentration camp” but that trump seems to (which I agree with) want to change army culture to a more “Masculine strength” (Like China, russia and NK) where its not about the effectiveness or such of the military but the “strength” of its individual soldiers.
It seems more pointed to trump trying to make his own dictator army, like stalin, or hitler, with the emphasis people seemed to give on the image, I expected more commentary on “how the army should be used to control undesirables” or something, which Im sure trump wants,
but what I read was about trump trying to copy the ultra masculine face of armies in NK or Russia but instead of any discussion or that, everyone it talking about the image, like trump was smart enough to be liking this for the image and not him agreeing “Ya ya, I want army to be stronk”
Again, it was a Washington Times article, not Post. The Washington Post was not linked because neither Trump nor Snopes cited them. Likewise, whether or not the “stuff on yahoo” that “seems like ai slop” to you doesn’t change whether it is AI authored (it isn’t, it was written by a human working at Snopes and posted to Snopes) nor whether it is accurate (it is). Trump did post the article with the image in question to his Truth Social account on March 9, 2025.
The discussion raised by people in this thread is not about the content of the linked Washington Times article, it is about the fact that the president of the United States is using iconography developed by the Nazis in the same manner as the Nazis. That said, to take the obvious bait you’ve set up, we’ve seen how ineffective both Russia and North Korea’s army are. They are clearly a poor model for a well run and organised army, regardless of their supposedly “masculine strength”. I also reject your claim that strength is a purely masculine trait. The US has had a (if begrudgingly) diverse military for as long as it has been a global superpower. Gay people, trans people, people of color, and more recently women have been contributing successfully to that strength for longer than you or I have been alive. Many of those groups are typically cast as non masculine, yet clearly display great strength.
I’m not going to be responding to you any further, I don’t really feel like you’re engaging in good faith.
I don’t want to defend trump, but does the article author he linked to, know what that is?
Thr article seems to just talk about saying trump wants to make the army “tougher” more “formidable” with ads not focusing on the diversity of the army, its many missons and soldiers but just in raw individual “masculine” strength.
Yes, a military formed on that sort of ethos can be persumed to work agianst anyone not vehemently masculine, physically and mentally,
It doesn’t seem the author or trump knew the meaning of the symbol.
Any other newspaper should know better. The Washington Times doesn’t want to know better, because “I didn’t know” is a very convenient excuse when you publish Nazi shit every day.
You may be totally right, sincerely, but also, its funny how each and every time the ‘Nazi accusation’ comes up that it can be potentially hand-waved away/excused as a simple mistake/misunderstanding, almost like if someone is doing that on purpose so that they can still signal but have an ‘out’ for the signaling. The President of the United States of America should be the LAST person to make those kind of mistakes.
Also drives up conflict so that people are not looking at “what the other hand is doing”.
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Also, once you did one accidental Nazism, someone who’s very opposed to Nazis would double-check every future statement to make sure they didn’t do that again. You can’t make that mistake twice and plead ignorance.
Eh somewhat, In this day and age every symbol has some meaning and most people might not know it. but also trump wouldnt care, he isn’t opposed to nazis.
Agian my comment wasn’t saying trump wasn’t a nazi, just in this one case he, and the author, seemed to not know the meaning of the symbol. but trump would love a toxicly macho army to oppress gays, so he when/if he finds out he wouldn’t care.
This applies just fine to the author, who has presumably not been publicly castigated for using Nazi symbolism, but it does not apply to Trump, who has. So he either is not opposed to Nazis so he didn’t make any effort to avoid repeating the error or intentionally promoting Nazis, and we shouldn’t view those traits as meaningfully different.
I’m sorry, but no. The author, as a journalist, posting to a publication with editors, does not get a pass about using a very, VERY well known symbol of the Holocaust.
Particularly in a time where the comparisons to that era are flying fast and furious, even if they somehow managed to be that poor a student of history that they somehow missed that, they should have taken the time to at least brush up on that period.
The author knew exactly what they posted and their editors who let it through did too.
Oh, trump is clearly a hiitler fanboy, and he shows this clearly on a daily basis, yes. This is one the rare occasion he might have not known what he was sharing. Of course if the article was about using the army to put gays in concentration camps, im sure he would still support it.
It used to matter. 10 years ago, this would have been a non-starter for a political career. Now it’s, “Well, maybe he doesn’t know better. 🥺”
Take the article with the image and post it at your work. If you wouldn’t, do you think someone who did should get fired? I do.
It’s not a “misunderstanding.” He should take responsibility if he didn’t know better, but he won’t.
The dignity of that office has fallen so far. While the “lines went up” elsewhere in society, they went far down here.
I don’t know anyone at my work who might recognize that symbol. It looks like an article saying trump want a an army like russia, a toxicly masculine dictator machine. This doesn’t make me think less of trump, 8 years ago when he talked about bombing innocents, I knew he was scum and maybe he crazy. Agian I’m not defending his character, but the yahoo article reeks of ai slop and it just feels like its made to hate for hate sake.
Yeah, society has fallen everyone is out to hate, no one cares to think and form structured opinion, just spouting hateful rhetoric, and yes I know one side is trying to kill innocents while the other is trying to kill the people vying for thier death.
It’s not a Yahoo article, it’s a Snopes article.
Bullshit.
and really, people think trump is smart enough to use critical thinking and inference to read between the lines and make a conclusion that isn’t spoon fed to him?
did you read the ai slop yahoo article or the Washington post op?
The original article read more to say trump was trying to make a dictator machine, like russia, NKz or china, not concentration camps,
of course trump would still support and share it if it was.
Im not saying he’s agianst putting us in concentration camps, he already has stsrted, im saying this was not our red flag
It’s a Washington Times op, not the Washington Post. It is not an “ai slop yahoo article”, but Snopes article aggregated on Yahoo News.
Like you’re trying to attack the credibility of these criticisms while seemingly being completely unaware of who wrote them or who they’re responding to.
The stuff on yahoo, seems like ai slop, it keeps repeating the same thing, maybe that’s how the yahoo aggregate works idk, im not familiar with it. I was not attacking the Washington post op, I said whats linked, the yahoo thing feels like what id expect from an ai generated article and the Washington post opinion piece didn’t seem to read so much about “gays in concentration camp” but that trump seems to (which I agree with) want to change army culture to a more “Masculine strength” (Like China, russia and NK) where its not about the effectiveness or such of the military but the “strength” of its individual soldiers.
It seems more pointed to trump trying to make his own dictator army, like stalin, or hitler, with the emphasis people seemed to give on the image, I expected more commentary on “how the army should be used to control undesirables” or something, which Im sure trump wants,
but what I read was about trump trying to copy the ultra masculine face of armies in NK or Russia but instead of any discussion or that, everyone it talking about the image, like trump was smart enough to be liking this for the image and not him agreeing “Ya ya, I want army to be stronk”
Again, it was a Washington Times article, not Post. The Washington Post was not linked because neither Trump nor Snopes cited them. Likewise, whether or not the “stuff on yahoo” that “seems like ai slop” to you doesn’t change whether it is AI authored (it isn’t, it was written by a human working at Snopes and posted to Snopes) nor whether it is accurate (it is). Trump did post the article with the image in question to his Truth Social account on March 9, 2025.
The discussion raised by people in this thread is not about the content of the linked Washington Times article, it is about the fact that the president of the United States is using iconography developed by the Nazis in the same manner as the Nazis. That said, to take the obvious bait you’ve set up, we’ve seen how ineffective both Russia and North Korea’s army are. They are clearly a poor model for a well run and organised army, regardless of their supposedly “masculine strength”. I also reject your claim that strength is a purely masculine trait. The US has had a (if begrudgingly) diverse military for as long as it has been a global superpower. Gay people, trans people, people of color, and more recently women have been contributing successfully to that strength for longer than you or I have been alive. Many of those groups are typically cast as non masculine, yet clearly display great strength.
I’m not going to be responding to you any further, I don’t really feel like you’re engaging in good faith.