• ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml
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      17 hours ago

      Honestly, I think it was mostly just a matter of how bad Harris was as a candidate

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        15 hours ago

        This is why I blame the DNC equally for where we’re at now. Biden should’ve bowed out after two years, we should’ve gotten a primary for 2024. They completely screwed over the younger base, who were still pissed about what they did to Bernie in 2016. Biden won by narrow margin in 2020.

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          32 minutes ago

          And let’s be real, Biden didn’t win as much as Trump lost. Trump fucking up covid is why Biden got elected.

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            29 minutes ago

            This… even my own dad who voted for Trump refused to vote for him in 2020…. I think he sat out or voted third-party.

            Unfortunately, he voted for Trump again in 2024. He’s a reasonable guy with a lot of things related to politics, yet still blames Obama for health care costs. We agree on things like how Newsom is an incompetent governor and is too spineless to call out Israel, and he’s all show. We’re both anti-government unions ( I argue it creates a privileged bureaucratic class that abuses public funds for pensions, and puts a tremendous burden on the state budget), but pro-private unions (ones that aren’t bought off by the establishment). I don’t get it all, it’s frustrating AF.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m still mad the DNC didn’t hold a primary election when they all got together in Chicago (I think that’s where they were I could be wrong) after Biden dropped out. Would have been way better optics.

        Also still think Biden could have just stayed in and won because sexism and propaganda was way more effective against Harris than another old white guy. Harris not that inspiring for voter turn out either in my opinion.

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          12 hours ago

          He should never have ran for a second term. The moment he did, he never should have backed out. Terrible strategy all around.

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          16 hours ago

          I agree about the Biden thing. After the terrible debate all the campaign needed to do was invite Trump to a cage match fight. No one would have remembered the debate and we would have an old, but sane president with cancer instead of an old malignant narcissist.

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            27 minutes ago

            You guys are delusional. You’re gaslighting yourselves. Of all democratic match ups against Trump, Biden polled the worst. Harris polled second worst. Biden would have lost even worse that Harris did. Then that debate… There was no recovering from that debate. You also had major donors refusing to donate. Harris was bad, Biden was worse.

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        5 hours ago

        No, it’s never the fault of billionaires in any media comparison. If it serves the corporate interests, the media are happy to blame older people.