Like, fuck Sean Hannity and all that, but I’m pretty sure if half the Lemmy users were in control, I’d be allowed to eat nothing but leaves and have to cut my gas stove into pieces so I could bike it to the recycle depot.
Yeah people act like Joe Biden is going to personally show up at their house, kick them in the nuts, and take a sledgehammer to the stove. I mean, I’d pay to see that, but it’s really just various levels of government saying, “Hey, breathing this stuff in isn’t great for your brains, here are some financial incentives if you want to replace your stove.” The reality is kind of boring.
Hmm, I think there may be some overlap between “people whose brains have been damaged by improperly-ventilated gas stoves” and “people who think the government wants to rip their gas stoves out of their house and leave them to freeze.”
I know those are the same people who would never look at data or facts, but ….
My ex lives in “new-ish” townhouse (just a few decades old, which is new for this area). It’s new enough to be fairly weathertight. However it is gas but the stove has that “ventilation” where it sucks up all the smoke and toxic gases and grease, and blows them in your face. However, now they also have an air quality monitor and it’s eye opening just how quickly the air quality gets bad, and how bad it gets, when they use the stove. Anyhow who cares about facts or reality should really get a look at something like this. In any sane world, it would change minds
Or the alternate zoning thing that also got caught up in this: no new gas connections. That’s also not taking anything away, just changing what gets built. It also doesn’t cost more: the big cost is when you need to convert one set of infrastructure to another: can we just avoid that headache?
If conservatives really believed in “fiscal restraint” why can’t the see new gas connections as a waste of money creating infraStructure that will long outlive its usefulness? No city grows fast enough for this to really help much with our energy transition, this is merely stop wasting money on something we need to get away from
also, why should we do what our ancestors did. that’s like running in circles. if we can improve, we should. i want to live in a star trek world, not the dark ages.
Like, fuck Sean Hannity and all that, but I’m pretty sure if half the Lemmy users were in control, I’d be allowed to eat nothing but leaves and have to cut my gas stove into pieces so I could bike it to the recycle depot.
Oh nooo eating plants and riding bikes and recycling and not using stoves that give you memory loss! What a terrible world that would be.
The stove thing is soo stupid. It’s not even a ban on gas stoves, it’s just requiring you to properly ventilate areas when they are installed.
Yeah people act like Joe Biden is going to personally show up at their house, kick them in the nuts, and take a sledgehammer to the stove. I mean, I’d pay to see that, but it’s really just various levels of government saying, “Hey, breathing this stuff in isn’t great for your brains, here are some financial incentives if you want to replace your stove.” The reality is kind of boring.
Hmm, I think there may be some overlap between “people whose brains have been damaged by improperly-ventilated gas stoves” and “people who think the government wants to rip their gas stoves out of their house and leave them to freeze.”
I know those are the same people who would never look at data or facts, but ….
My ex lives in “new-ish” townhouse (just a few decades old, which is new for this area). It’s new enough to be fairly weathertight. However it is gas but the stove has that “ventilation” where it sucks up all the smoke and toxic gases and grease, and blows them in your face. However, now they also have an air quality monitor and it’s eye opening just how quickly the air quality gets bad, and how bad it gets, when they use the stove. Anyhow who cares about facts or reality should really get a look at something like this. In any sane world, it would change minds
All decent, common-sense, regular everyday reality is boring. That’s why it never makes the news.
yeah the worst thing that would happen is next time you replace your stove you’d have to get an induction stove and maybe some electrical work
HOW DARE THE GUBBERNMENT TELL ME WHICH FUMES I CAN HUFF
Properly ventillate??? SoShALiSmmZ!!!q1
Or the alternate zoning thing that also got caught up in this: no new gas connections. That’s also not taking anything away, just changing what gets built. It also doesn’t cost more: the big cost is when you need to convert one set of infrastructure to another: can we just avoid that headache?
If conservatives really believed in “fiscal restraint” why can’t the see new gas connections as a waste of money creating infraStructure that will long outlive its usefulness? No city grows fast enough for this to really help much with our energy transition, this is merely stop wasting money on something we need to get away from
if you look at the more thought out visions we can make things fucking better.
Imagine being healthy and not torturing animals. Disgusting.
Them: All our ancestors ate meat at every meal for all of history!
Me: actually,
Them: ALL OF HISTORY
also, why should we do what our ancestors did. that’s like running in circles. if we can improve, we should. i want to live in a star trek world, not the dark ages.
although it was mostly plants, a rabbit you stabbed with a stick while foraging here and there, and the occasional big game
Lol do you know how many megafauna humans hunted to extinction?
as a percentage of calories big game was small. it’s hard to catch one of those vs just eating some plants growing over there
A mammoth carcass could sustain a village for a year lol.
You’d have to preserve it first
Just let it freeze.
you don’t have to cut it into peaces you can use a cargo bike /s
You sound like you really love Hannity.
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