• deft@lemmy.wtf
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    1 day ago

    Yes they are all the time. I see the sentiment everywhere on lemmy. People are convinced voting is a sham and doesn’t work because people have not done their duty to defend voting.

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      1 day ago

      Yeah, no. You are just conflating doing more then one thing at a time with only doing one thing and being smug about it.

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        20 hours ago

        Lol being smug?

        People should just vote. This push to leap to violence and destruction is exactly part of the playbook for everyone except the poor people who are actually going to suffer for it.

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          18 hours ago

          Poor people are currently suffering from the attitude that people should just vote.

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            13 hours ago

            No people are suffering from a dying democracy because they don’t go out to vote and then when faced with the death of their democracy, they want to instantly quit or shrug and say it’s already dead and commit to not doing anything and when you say shit like this you’re doing it too.

            “Dogs already choking guess I shouldn’t bother to help, he’s already done for” that’s your mentality.

            If people had voted you’d have a much different country. Different senators, different supreme court, different representatives every level. None of this bullshit.

            Did you know Reagan won in a landslide election with only about 50% voter turnout which at the time was the lowest turnout in almost 30 years?

            Every election roughly 30% of the population votes for the candidate that wins. 30%.

            And these are just presidential elections, the numbers are worse for local elections and midterms.

            Did you know AOC’s election which is regarded as a huge step in the changing demographic of our Congress upset a 14 year stranglehold by the same candidate who held that seat unopposed and she only won by a tiny margin in an election where 13% came out to vote.

            The guy she beat was one seen as a great pick for speaker of the house. Now he’s nobody. 13% barely managed to shift the course of this country. Now look at the state of NYC. Say what you want about AOC but her victory did mark a shift and it is absolutely for the better.

            Just fucking vote dude

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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        19 hours ago

        Nope, I’ve literally been banned from instances for telling people to vote (while also doing other things at the same time). There are absolutely tons of lemmings who actively discourage voting.

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        16 hours ago

        The ones being smug are those who insult anyone who says to vote, while throwing out all their keyboard warrior battlecries while also doing nothing, and then always having an excuse why it’s not their responsibility to do the thing they’re shaming everyone else for not doing.

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          5 hours ago

          Oh so those outside of the states should what? Invade?

          The projection on expecting everyone else to fix your mess is insane. And no you don’t get to call foul when non americans share their opinion with you about your shit ass nation, as this is what america has done to everyone else (and still is) for as long as I have been alive. Don’t like it? Then fix your shit. How you do that (at this point you are doing nothing but defending your poor nation from your keyboard) is up to you.

          So please, try and not put words in peoples mouths.

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            51 minutes ago

            Exhibit A. Thank you for demonstrating.

            So please, try and not put words in peoples mouths.

            This is so fucking ironic, especially paired with you’re accusing me of projection. I didn’t project a damn thing, and I never said I expect “everyone else to fix” “my” mess. All I said was that you’re a smug little keyboard warrior who isn’t contributing anything to the solution.

            (at this point you are doing nothing but defending your poor nation from your keyboard)

            Fuck all the way off with that shit. You have no clue what I do or don’t do, and I’m not about to hand you my resumé, but pretending that I’m defending this hellhole is a new level of asinine.