“We need to shut the border.… The president could take executive action to do it today—doesn’t need more money. It needs action, and this is what’s disappointing to people, and that’s why Mayorkas is gonna pay this public relations price by being impeached for the first time since 1876,” Hill said.
Notably absent from Hill’s explanation was any description of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by Mayorkas. Hill all but admitted that, with the impeachment, Republicans are aiming to make Mayorkas the face of their anti-Biden, anti-immigrant campaign, despite his having not committed impeachable offenses.”

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    This was done for multiple reasons:

    • Rile up the voting base – people who 24 hours ago couldn’t pronounce the name Mayorkas, let alone know who the hell he was – and paint him as the GOP’s new boogeyman. Make him the face of the anti-immigration movement spearheaded by a MAGA base that hates brown people by default.
    • Attempt to make it look like the GOP is “doing something” about the border
    • De-value impeachment as a check on executive overreach, turning it into just another partisan tool that can be safely ignored by the general public as “no big deal”
    • Take the focus off of Trump and everything he’s saying and doing.

    “We need to shut the border.… The president could take executive action to do it today—doesn’t need more money. It needs action, and this is what’s disappointing to people, and that’s why Mayorkas is gonna pay this public relations price by being impeached for the first time since 1876,”

    So if Biden could have done it through an EO, why not just write up and pass a bill that has everything you’d want the EO to have? Oh, that’s right. The Senate just did that and you rejected it out of hand because the orange man told you to. If Trump had blessed the exact same bill, you’d have been standing in front of a pulpit popping the champagne bottle while some old hag screams at random people to shut up. Fucking tool.

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    The real “game” here is that they are trying to downplay the seriousness of impeachment. Because their orange clown was impeached twice.

    So they’ll “impeach” anyone they think they can get away with to score points with their ignorant base and to make it seems less serious.

    It’s really shitty and un-American.

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        It works like a charm.

        Go to a GOP state right now and ask 100 people who Mayorkas is. I will give $100 for every response that is little more than a confused look.

        Now go to those same GOP voters in about 24 hours, after they’ve gotten their daily dose of Fox News and Trump’s dollar-store-twitter knock-off. I’ll give you another $100 for every response that isn’t how suddenly Mayorkas is the root of all evil and the source of all their problems and needs to be impeached because orange man said so.

        These people are lemmings who believe the last thing Trump tells them.

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    Great. He gave away the game. At least 40% of Americans are going to get played. Giving up the game has no consequences. Ask freakin’ Christopher Rufo if explaining his unreasonable strategy against critical race theory hurts him in anyway. Ask Steve Bannon. Ask Donald “Aspiring Dictator For A Day” Trump. Ask Steven Miller.

    The game was given up a long time ago and we’re still playin’ it.

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      Jordan Klepper did a segment on The Daily Show last night (it’s on YouTube) where he talked to Trump people and they want a dictator or a king. They come right out and say it.

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        To be fair, most Democrats do too. They just want a dictator that is going to do the things they want, like banning certain forms of speech, or taxing billionaires out of existence.

        Not many people really, truly want a lost constitutional framework where a consensus needs to be reached, and compromises made, in order to do things.

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          most Democrats do too. They just want a dictator that is going to do the things they want,

          [Citation needed]

          The user doth projects too much.

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            It seems like they drink their own Kool aid on the both sides isms that they get worked up and think it’s a race. I only want a dictator because they do too, and I’ve got to get my guy in first.

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              I only want a dictator because they do too

              I don’t want ANY dictators. I don’t want a president that can just make decrees because congress is deadlocked, regardless of whether or not I agree with those presidential decrees!

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          They just want a dictator that is going to do the things they want

          “They” being the majority of Americans. We want a constitutional framework that benefits everyone, not just a select few. That’s not wanting a dictatorship, it’s quite the opposite. Democrats and Republicans Are. Not. The. Same.

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          banning certain forms of speech

          Democrats aren’t the ones on a book banning crusade.

          Nice attempt at a both-sides though.

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            I can not tell you how many times I’ve had to explain to liberals that there is no hate-speech exception to 1A, and that yes, advocating for genocide of the Jews is legally-protected speech that the gov’t can not censor.

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              Yes, you can legally say almost anything you want as an opinion (defamation is a thing however). Court of public opinion is totally different, and the public can totally choose to “cancel” you if they wish.

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                Of course. And that’s fine, I’ve got no objection to that at all. If I say something that’s deeply offensive and hateful, of course I deserve to be censured by people.

                And yeah, I’ve been banned from Twitter and Reddit; the former for advocating the guillotining of billionaires, and the former for suggesting arson as a solution to Nazis. They’re both privately-owned spaces, and so that’s fine.

                But that’s not what I’m talking about.

                I’m talking about legitimate government censorship, and criminal penalties for politically unpopular speech. We’ve seen that in, for instance, in anti-BDS laws, which have passed in both Republican and Democratic states, and we’re seeing it with Republicans censoring what books libraries can have, and Dems trying to censor what children can see on Facebook.

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                These guys always crack me up. They want their racial epithets and hate speech, and also want to be protected from any and all consequences of using such speech.

                Hey, idiots - free speech does not mean freedom from consequences. There are always consequences for your actions. Get it through your thick skull, it’s shitty and wrong to be racist, and people will not like you for being racist when you act out, period.

                I can’t believe this isn’t well understood but here we are. Fuckin snowflakes.

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            Okay, let’s start. I’ll address things that are solely covered under the Bill of Rights, either enumerated or implied.

            A not insignificant number of liberal Democrats believe that speech they believe to be hateful should not be legally permissible. Things like, Fox News shouldn’t be allowed to broadcast, Nazis shouldn’t be allowed to hold rallies, etc. I’ve had the argument many, many times that there is no “hate speech” exception to 1A, and there shouldn’t be, since it was intended to protect unpopular and dangerous speech (…such as sedition against the king). (ETA - Many Dems actively mock the idea of freedom of speech/press/etc, e.g. “freeze peach”. Yes, the solution to free speech is more free speech).

            A very large number of liberal Democrats believe that individual ownership of firearms should be banned or restricted to the point where it’s effectively banned. Gun control and support for wholesale bans is literally part of the party platform.

            Certain Democratic majority states have passed laws preventing people that are protesting reproductive rights from getting too close to people using the clinics, or the clinics themselves.

            I’ve absolutely seen liberal Democrats say that certain religious expression and practice by individuals and religious institutions should be banned under penalty of law, notably treatment of LGBTQ+ people by conservative religions. See also: “‘hate speech’ exception to 1A”.

            Keep in mind that I do largely vote Democratic in national and state-level elections, but I’m personally more of a libertarian socialist. I vote Democratic because they’re more likely to do most of the things I want than Republicans.

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    If Trump doesn’t win they’re all going to prison. Gang of traitors can go get fucked while they’re there.

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      Not happening, the elite don’t send each other to prison. That’s why trump, with his massive amount of shit he has done, is still free. You can’t put one of their own up.

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    They just voted against the border security bill that they supported and wanted, and now they’re trying to blame someone else.

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    No, he didn’t “accidentally” say the reason. He just said they’re doing it “for political vandalism and fuck you too“.

    They’ve been right out front with their unfiltered racist hateful shit-for-brains garbage for almost a decade now. And yet we still see these headlines like “Oops! RepubliQan Guy Accidentally Says Deeply Offensive Thing” witha bunch of “oooooh those terrible republiQans!” comments. We are stuck. In republican hell.

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    Always wanted to ask but isnt the entire fruit and vegetable market basically run by migrants? Whos gonna do that work? Most definitely wont be trumpers (gopers). So thats going to be interesting.

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      I’ve heard this on some radio show a while ago. The farm owners know that people will get it no matter what, they don’t care. What they care about is how much control they will have over them when they get here. Fear creates complying.

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    Well it sounds like Hill is saying that Biden could unilaterally shut the border. Unsure if that is true, but if it is then that is at least a reason to impeach. Albeit NOT a reason a impeach Mayorkas as he doesn’t have that authority. But this could at least be a named reason to impeach Biden. This absolutely doesn’t qualify as “high crimes and misdemeanors” since it is the President’s prerogative whether or not to exercise this action, not a crime to fail to do so. But at least it’d be more of a reason than the Republicans gave last time they tried to impeach Biden.