Given the current state of partisan polarization, it’s unlikely Biden can get majority job approval next year even with the most fortunate set of circumstances. But the good news for him is that he probably doesn’t have to. Job-approval ratings are crucial indicators in a normal presidential reelection cycle that is basically a referendum on the incumbent’s record. Assuming Trump is the Republican nominee, 2024 will not be a normal reelection cycle for three reasons.

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    From what I’ve heard and seen, a lot of younger voters are disillusioned by the Democrats’ stance on genocide. I’ve heard the comment many are repeating that they are single issue voters when the issue is genocide.

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      From what I’ve heard and seen, there’s a massive astroturfing effort to discredit Biden over the actions of an allied nation. It’s as if a massive propaganda machine is at work that completely ignores the fact that Republicans would have an even worse stance than Biden on this issue.

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        The “but it could be much worse” argument doesn’t carry much weight for many people on this issue.

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          Which is still an ignorant take, because we’ve only got two realistic options. Bad and worse.

          Any complaints otherwise are ignorant at best, if not maliciously deceptive.

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            Which is still an ignorant take, because we’ve only got two realistic options. Bad and worse.

            The solution isn’t “shut up and be grateful we’re not worse”. It’s actually running someone that’s good.

            We’ve tried the “shut up you don’t have a choice” strategy and that just keeps ending up with republicans in office.

            Why not just run good candidates that want to help America if they get in office?

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              Why not just run good candidates that want to help America if they get in office?

              Because that doesn’t make nearly as much money donations as “Look at how awful the Republicans are.”

              If the D’s ran a real candidate that actually cared about the country, they’d get blasted in fund raising…People like Booker would go broke overnight if we got universal healthcare. Pelosi would lose her ass if we outlawed congressional trading.

              We’re fucked…irrevocably completely and utterly fucked.

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          Has anyone tried explaining that if you allow in the people literally trying to take their rights away, they won’t get another chance to vote in a politician against genocide?

          Like the genocide is awful but it shouldn’t make people forget they have very close to home issues currently happening right now.

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            I hear that excuse every single election and have always found it lacking.

            If we always have to wait until after the next election to demand better of the Democrats then we’ll never see any change. “Lesser evilism” will only allow the Democrats to continue sliding the overton window to the right.

            Even if you’re already planning to vote a straight Democrat ticket, don’t tell them that. Make them think you’re a swing voter they need to pander to.

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              How are you hearing it every single election? The main issues didn’t start popping up (or at least blatantly enough to change voter turnout) until the 2016 election.

              Like that’s not nearly enough elections in between to hear the excuse every election.

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                  I don’t particularly care about the democratic party threat, I care about the uptick in voting issues, the supreme court, and…you know…that the opposing party is trying to vote in someone who attempted to not give up the office

                  So you know, the recent ones that a lot of people started voting in about.

                  If you truly believe that’s nothing new, i’ll just consider you to be part of that astroturfing described above and ask you to stop wasting my time. Seriously…

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                    I’m not going to compromise my principles out of fear. I’d rather write in “none of the above” than hitch my wagon to a party that gets campaign donations from corporate bombmakers like Raytheon.

                    If the Democrats want my vote, they should start acting like it. They need to stop pretending they can coast to victory on “lesser evilism” before they end up repeating all their mistakes from 2016, and the threat of withholding my vote is the only leverage I have.

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      The issue with that is that Republicans hold an even worse position on genocide in multiple ways and would have been gunning for not only Israel killing all Palestinians, but ejecting all Muslims from the US as well. Which they will also totally do if they win the election.

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        Two fascist parties?

        Time to stay home on election day. I refuse to be complicit in the crimes of the State.

        If the Democrats want my vote, they can start pandering to me instead of AIPAC.