I mean I have different opinions than most Libertarians but I applaud the true Libertarian POV of “leave me the fuck alone”
If I lived alone on an island, I’d probably be one too.
But, considering the government (Republican or Democratic) will take whatever the fuck they want from my wages and then gouge me again on sales tax, I just want to dump as much of those taxes into helping others and the rest can go to helping to maintain and expand green spaces as well as infrastructure and roads.
Fun fact: most libertarians don’t want to be left alone. They don’t want to be regulated. They still want a society with rules, they just want those rules to be whatever they decide works for them, without regard to whether those rules would fuck over someone else.
Some so-called libertarians actually do want to live apart from society but at that point they’re just antisocial. Because being libertarian means you need to be part of a group, which is antithetical to the ethos of being left alone.
Social libertarian, so many here seem to forget this label exists.
In honestly though, labels are fucking stupid. No one can directly fit under any of them, without a “but” clause stating the shit they don’t agree with.
There was zero plan as usual. The thing is, imagine what’s going to happen after Trump. Imagine someone who is actually charismatic and smart in Trump’s place who tows the same basic line. That’s what really scares me
I see this sentiment often, which has afforded me the chance to reflect on it. The hypothetical smarter, shrewder, Trump-like candidate would likely hold less appeal to the party. As it stands, aspiring connivers operate under the belief that they can exert enough control to get what they want, consequences be damned. Essentially, they are gambling that they can act as the ego to his id on matters that they prioritize. A more intelligent candidate would certainly have a higher degree of agency and thus would be of less value to the manipulators. Trump, and those who resemble him, are the most dangerous sort.
This is the best answer I’ve been able to formulate as to why those who present as fools and dunces form the face of the MAGA movement. These people are useful idiots who garner support from interested parties focused on specific goals.
I mean, in a way it would be a good move for the libertarians to do something like that for a year, as getting over certain thresholds unlocks more election funding.
Then again, the libertarian party doing something to get more government funding isn’t exactly ideologically consistent.
I’m just glad the orange idiot roasted them to their face. It’s hilarious that he called out their shit electoral performance and bottom of the barrel chance at one of their own rallies.
Not that I care, but what the fuck was your plan here? Just roasting libertarians for the fun of it?
Which to be fair, is a hobby of mine.
He thought he could roll in and get their endorsement over their own candidate.
Say what you want about the Libertarians, they are not the drooling idiots of the MAGA crowd.
Yeah they’re not stupid, they’re selfish. So they’re not that different from some Republicans.
They’re not Repub-level stupid, but they do think libertarianism would work.
Selfish or immature/naive. I feel like most guys go through a libertarian phase, no matter how brief it might be.
I mean I have different opinions than most Libertarians but I applaud the true Libertarian POV of “leave me the fuck alone”
If I lived alone on an island, I’d probably be one too.
But, considering the government (Republican or Democratic) will take whatever the fuck they want from my wages and then gouge me again on sales tax, I just want to dump as much of those taxes into helping others and the rest can go to helping to maintain and expand green spaces as well as infrastructure and roads.
Fun fact: most libertarians don’t want to be left alone. They don’t want to be regulated. They still want a society with rules, they just want those rules to be whatever they decide works for them, without regard to whether those rules would fuck over someone else.
Some so-called libertarians actually do want to live apart from society but at that point they’re just antisocial. Because being libertarian means you need to be part of a group, which is antithetical to the ethos of being left alone.
Both of these cohorts are no fun at parties.
Social libertarian, so many here seem to forget this label exists.
In honestly though, labels are fucking stupid. No one can directly fit under any of them, without a “but” clause stating the shit they don’t agree with.
I just use “pissed off Democrat”
Right? This is a real, “the worst person you know just made a good point,” moment.
There was zero plan as usual. The thing is, imagine what’s going to happen after Trump. Imagine someone who is actually charismatic and smart in Trump’s place who tows the same basic line. That’s what really scares me
I see this sentiment often, which has afforded me the chance to reflect on it. The hypothetical smarter, shrewder, Trump-like candidate would likely hold less appeal to the party. As it stands, aspiring connivers operate under the belief that they can exert enough control to get what they want, consequences be damned. Essentially, they are gambling that they can act as the ego to his id on matters that they prioritize. A more intelligent candidate would certainly have a higher degree of agency and thus would be of less value to the manipulators. Trump, and those who resemble him, are the most dangerous sort.
This is the best answer I’ve been able to formulate as to why those who present as fools and dunces form the face of the MAGA movement. These people are useful idiots who garner support from interested parties focused on specific goals.
I really do hope you’re right
I mean, in a way it would be a good move for the libertarians to do something like that for a year, as getting over certain thresholds unlocks more election funding.
Then again, the libertarian party doing something to get more government funding isn’t exactly ideologically consistent.
I’m just glad the orange idiot roasted them to their face. It’s hilarious that he called out their shit electoral performance and bottom of the barrel chance at one of their own rallies.
NO plan just narcissism. He couldn’t be upstaged by the libertarian candidate…