I normally don’t even want to get involved in posting a drumbeat of “here’s something about Biden staying in the race” stories because, (1) I’m not sure he should, and (2) it doesn’t “cancel out” the waste of time that is the incessant drumbeat of articles about how he should drop out. It’s like taking uppers to counteract downers; it just doesn’t work that way, it makes everything worse. And the amount of press this whole thing is getting and the way it’s being presented is absolutely fuckin absurd.
But that being said, I want to post this one because I like Elizabeth Warren quite a lot and I think what she says gets to the core of the issue.
Also, if you are a Democratic politician or donor and you want to replace Biden with someone else, surely talking to the press about how he should drop out without anyone in particular in mind that you’re talking to them about as a replacement, and a strategy to get that person into place, should be an absolute last, last, last resort for a way to get that done. And probably not even then.
Biden’s thing of “If you want to replace me then mount a challenge at the convention, that’s what it’s for, and whoever wins, let’s fuckin fight the real enemy” makes quite a bit of sense to me, and the longer this goes on, the less sense the people who are talking to the press about him dropping out make.
So here you go, here’s a story about someone who thinks he should stay in and what she has to say.
It’s all felt like external pressure to me. Trump’s team knows it’s hard for him to beat Biden, so it’s all about undermining him in any way they can.
He’s old, feeble, sundowning, has Parkinson’s, has cancer, constantly forgetting things.
And in the debate? He answered every question in detail and got like two details wrong, while his opponent doubled down on comments that have gotten him impeached and in legal trouble.
But no, let’s talk about the stuttering man who was a little hoarse, and demand his replacement with nobody. After all, they don’t want to push a narrative that defines the replacement candidate, this is all about undermining the opposition.
And if you, reader, think you’re in the crowd of amplifying that, fuck you.
If replacing Biden was the answer to all the Democrats’ problems, all the papers like the NYT that are openly hostile to the Democrats winning the election wouldn’t be pushing it so hard.
It’s not quite that simple, of course. They are not “pushing” it in the sense of sincerely advocating a particular course of action that is realistic, and interviewing the people who are trying to implement that plan of action, as they would if they were sympathetic to the Democrats’ efforts to stop a real fascist dictatorship to come to life in the US, and trying to report on that genuine strategic effort maybe with a little bit of partisan hope that it would work.
They’re just very convincingly imitating this whole panicked concern trolling freak out, to hurt Biden, for reasons of their own. That doesn’t mean he isn’t old as fuck or that that’s not a problem. It could be that going through the total clusterfuck of replacing him as a candidate 4 months before the election might be worth the risk and we’d come into smoother waters successfully before November.
But they’re recommending it with such a shouting in everyone’s face level of forcefulness and repetition and without any particular plan to substitute for him, because they know it will hurt his chances if he stays in, and that replacing him at this point will be a clusterfuck. Not because they sincerely believe it will help. And the Democrats who are buying into and amplifying the strategy free panicked shouting version of it should be ashamed of themselves.
Lol…wtf…Trump is up 9 points. He’s going to wipe the floor with Biden. On top of that, if the D’s DO run Biden, they might very well lose Congress due to pure apathy and disgust of having to vote for Biden.
Once again, instead of doing the hard thing the Democrats are going to fail in the face of mediocre adversity.
Anyone who uses LOL in a political conversation is not looking for a conversation.
Fuck right off.
It’s easier to write people off for typing lol than it is to refute their argument.
Edit: Trump is unpopular and Biden is still down significantly in the polls. There are options to run other people. Why would you possibly not want to run a candidate that is more likely to win?
I’m getting downvoted in other comments, but nobody is telling me how the polling deficit is good strategy.
Because not one person has identified that candidate. At all.
And I’m done talking to people who want to treat this as a school yard game. I will continue to block people who cannot debate in good faith.
Panicking about this situation does nothing, and that’s mostly what I’m reading. Writing off the government, the process, the country, because Trump is polling well at the moment.
Roe v Wade is this elections spoiler. The country’s future takes the back seat to that because of the pearl clutchers who spend all day online worrying but know nothing about politics.
Change candidates now? Is that new candidate on all the ballots? Are they funded? Or is this just a fantasy?
These are discussions that can be had, but they’re uncomfortable ones because they ended up grounded in reality and details.
They all end in a Trump victory. The reality is Biden said he wasn’t going to run for a second term, or at least alluded to it when running last time.
His hubris has doomed us all. You can write off the LoLs all you want. The reality is, without some major dramatic action by someone, anyone, Trump wins.
This whole cycle is like watching 2016 all over again. The Democrats are completely dismissing the facts and they’re going to burn us all for their inaction.
No one is on any ballot. Party candidates aren’t nominated until their convention and that determines who’s on the ballot.
You can really tell how liberals don’t actually believe in anything because you see shit like this in their camp.
“…not one person has identified that candidate. At all.”
Unironically posting that as a defense of Biden and somehow pretending this isn’t an indictment on the DNC’s complicity with the Republican Party.
“Roe v Wade is this elections spoiler”
… what? Are you aware who lost it and has done nothing to fight back?
Are we even living in the same reality?
“Change candidates now?”
Again, you’re literally arguing against yourself. What a shining example of liberal cognitive ability.
Let me guess, your next response is “fuck you”
Pathetic.
The uncomfortable reality is Biden’s already bad approval rating will continue to worsen as the election gets closer and his minor flubs add up.
Do you want to tap in somebody else now and get to work or wait until its too late?
Pretending that there’s no possible other candidate doesn’t make it true either. Other candidates haven’t had to lobby delegates at convention since the 60s but the mechanism is in place for that. Another option is for the party to rally behind Kamala who is polling above Biden and who would also have access to previous their tickets campaign funds.
I agree that Roe V Wade is this election’s spoiler and Biden has been doing a lackluster job at drilling into that.
Fucking name them, then! Put up or shut up!
Harris. She is polling better and she has access to the campaign funds. I don’t like either, but I’ll take almost anybody over Trump. I wish people took him seriously enough to run better candidates.
Isn’t voting Biden/Harris the exact same as voting Harris if anything happens to Biden?
Yes and no. It’s the same result if Biden is elected, but if Biden’s name on the ticket is shown to depress voter turnout then he may not get elected in the first place.
Political polling means very little.