Tulsi Gabbard says Iran could produce nuclear weapons "within weeks", months after she testified before Congress that the country was not building them. The US Director of National Intelligence said her March testimony - in which she said Iran had a stock of materials but was not building these weapons - had been taken out of context by "dishonest media".
    • tektite@slrpnk.net
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      6 days ago

      "We’re sorry, your [x] has been disabled due to unapproved usage.

      Press any key to agree with the regime…"

    • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nzEnglish
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      6 days ago

      Bullshit, some things happen on day one!!! Like the ending of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
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    7 days ago

    ‘Could’ vs ‘are’.

    They may not have been, but they could if they wanted to, supposedly.

    Now, if they didnt before, they certainly have the motivation and arguably the justification.

    I certainly wouldn’t blame them for seeking out nuclear weapons now.

    • Liz@midwest.socialEnglish
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      6 days ago

      There is no reason to be weeks away from an atomic bomb unless you’re interested in building a bomb. Tulsi was wrong about the timeline, but they were/are doing all the things a country interested in building a bomb would do.

      • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
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        6 days ago

        Well, maybe if foreign countries would leave them the fuck alone to do things like control and develop their own infrastructure and natural resources; they wouldn’t require nuclear weapons just to get some peace and quiet.

        The last couple decades has proven that’s the only deterrent that actually works.

        • Liz@midwest.socialEnglish
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          5 days ago

          So were they going for nukes or not? Because your first comment seemed to claim they weren’t interested in nukes, but now you seem to claim they were justified in going for nukes this whole time.

          (For the audience, Iran has been interested in nukes since at least the 90s, but has been prevented from getting one by lots of outside actors.)

          • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
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            5 days ago

            Yes, they have been seeking nukes since at lease the 90s, probably earlier, as around the 70s America on behalf of Britain orchestrated a coup and dismantled the countries progress, all so Britain could continue fucking Iran out of its oil and the profit they need to develop.

            As far as the present goes;

            I don’t know whether they were going for nukes specifically, or instead were developing civilian energy projects that produce/use the same if not very similar products; and that stockpile enabled them to pursue both.

            Honestly I didn’t care. While I generally don’t think ANYONE should have nukes, the US and Russia keep proving over and over again that that is the only deterrent you can actually rely on; so I can totally understand various nations drive to ensure they actually get some peace. If Iran feels they want/need nukes to keep themselves safe; well power to em, unfortunately they are correct.

            Leave them the fuck alone. Stop providing them with more and more reason to fucking despise the west and it’s allies; continually proving they HAVE to fight back to continue to exist. Continuing to attack isn’t turning them away from nukes, it’s hardening their resolve and proving further why nukes are necessary. Why do you think they felt it necessary to build a facility 200m under a damn mountain??

            Afraid they’re going to use their nukes offensively? Then stop giving them reasons to. Actually show some progress towards world peace instead of of just bombing everyone that has a slightly different world view.

            • Liz@midwest.socialEnglish
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              5 days ago

              “Death to America” does not constitute a slightly different world view. They are perfectly reasonable in their pursuit of nukes, and we’re perfectly reasonable in stopping them. When someone repeatedly says “we want to drop a nuke on people” you believe them and do what it takes to stop them.

              • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
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                5 days ago

                Why are they saying ‘death to America’?

                Because America won’t leave them alone. America started this shit, and continues to retaliate over and over for it’s own fuck ups comming back to bite it.

                Obviously Iran is going to hate them and say things like ‘Death to America’ when America just wont stop giving them reasons to.

                Maybe if America can demonstrate proper restraint and just leave the country to it’s own afairs, truly show themselves to NOT be an enemy of Iran, perhaps even an ally given sufficient time to heal; Iran will no longer feel the need to defend themselves against an immanent threat, whether real or perceived.

                Bombing them sends the opposite message.

                • Liz@midwest.socialEnglish
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                  4 days ago

                  So… Yes, but we still can’t allow them to have the ability to take out an entire city in one strike. Sucks, I know, but there are lines.

        • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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          6 days ago

          Did you know Iran is the country that supports Hamas, Hezbollah, the Hotuthis and a bunch of other terrorist organizations? Did you know Iran has made many official statements about wiping Israel off the map?

          Strange way to act if you want to be left alone.

          • Darkassassin07@lemmy.caEnglish
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            6 days ago

            Wouldn’t you hold a grudge after having your rapid progress towards technological and ideological growth completely derailed by a coup orchestrated by a foreign power that plunged your country into decades of chaotic religious fanaticism which suppresses freedom/human rights to this day?

            Especially when that foreign power continues to threaten your existence and expand into territory surrounding you?

    • Anomalocaris@lemm.eeOP
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      7 days ago

      i remember her trying to pander to the Bernie crowd after he “lost” the primaries in 2016. it was the first time I heard of her and some articles were treating it as if she was going to take Bernie’s torch.

      She was right when she was talking about Bernie’s healthcare and socialism liteish, but it was more of a broken clock

      so, she’s a complete grifter, trying to get ahead without any principles.

      • KingJalopy @lemm.ee
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        7 days ago

        she’s a complete grifter politician, trying to get ahead without any principles.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    I doubt countries are sharing intel with the US given how Trump and his minions handle classified information.

    So she probably wouldn’t know whether or not Iran was building nukes.

    Iran is a ally of Russia, so if she did have information on Iran building nukes Putin probably wouldn’t let her say. Trump probably overruled that because he saw Israel was winning and he wanted to take credit for the win.

    What a shitshow the US has become.

    • Anomalocaris@lemm.eeOP
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      6 days ago

      they been months away from nukes for decades, any moment now. that eta can’t go down due to US/Israel propaganda

  • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 days ago

    Sounds like Congress needs to ask her why she lied to them in the first place. Alas, they will not, because she is already playing the “Fake News” card.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 days ago

      I think a lot of people are going to be surprised…

      Personally, I don’t know why, because it’s obvious Russia needs Iran for Ukraine.

      But Putin isn’t going to let trump attack Iran.

      And it’s already causing the people Putin makes support trump, start going against him.

      I don’t want to link an actual tucker Carlson video, so here’s some people talking about his interview with Rafael Cruz:

      https://youtu.be/yQEd-ECAwDU?t=1140

      It tucker is breaking from trump over this, a lot more rightwing media is going to as well