Here is every Democrat who voted to take funding away from universities that boycott Israel:

  • Jake Auchincloss (Massachusetts)
  • Kathy Castor (Florida)
  • Gilbert Ray Cisneros Jr. (California)
  • Jim Costa (California)
  • Joe Courtney (Connecticut)
  • Henry Cuellar (Texas)
  • Donald G. Davis (North Carolina)
  • Lois Frankel (Florida)
  • Laura Gillen (New York)
  • Jared F. Golden (Maine)
  • Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
  • Greg Landsman (Ohio)
  • George Latimer (New York)
  • Susie Lee (Nevada)
  • John W. Mannion (New York)
  • Jared Moskowitz (Florida)
  • Donald Norcross (New Jersey)
  • Jimmy Panetta (California)
  • Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
  • Josh Riley (New York)
  • Bradley Scott Schneider (Illinois)
  • Hillary J. Scholten (Michigan)
  • Kim Schrier (Washington)
  • Brad Sherman (California)
  • Darren Soto (Florida)
  • Haley M. Stevens (Michigan)
  • Thomas R. Suozzi (New York)
  • Shri Thanedar (Michigan)
  • Dina Titus (Nevada)
  • Ritchie Torres (New York)
  • Juan Vargas (California)
  • Eugene Simon Vindman (Virginia)
  • Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
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    Excuse me to be naive, but since democrats voted against slavery abrogation, how can it be seen as anything else than a far-right party?

    Republican are clearly far-rightists too, ok… but still…

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    32 of these are apparently up for re-election.

    Any appropriate action to take here? As a North Carolinian, I’m stuck with Don Davis. I wonder if it’s any good to vote in these establishment Dems if they’re just going to go full GOP on us anyway. I’m not even sure if the alternative is going to be worse or better.

    Fuck man, I wish 3rd parties were viable.

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      In my unprofessional opinion, it is better to force their loss sooner rather than later because it’s going to happen anyways with those people. We shouldn’t be voting for them because they don’t vote on our side regardless.

      The issue now of course is that the GOP is literally bat shit insane evil when previously they were just bat shit insane on the dl evil and it would’ve been a lot better to do it this way.

      But still, It has to happen.

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        You’re gonna have to get rid of everyone in charge in order for that to happen though…

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      I hear you man and unfortunately 3rd parties will never be viable with these kinds of Democrats around who won’t support ranked choice or another system of voting.

      If you have a couple of thousand like minded individuals, I’d say do a coordinated priest vote with a specific message of your refusing to vote for people who can’t stand up to the GOP even for your 1st amendment rights like those in the Dearborn Abandon movement did.

      Otherwise you’d just have to decide if it’s worth it to you to hold your nose and slow walk the decent into fascism or go acceleration and live with the consequences of a quicker decent while continuing to fight for better candidates via progressives in the primaries. No real good options otherwise.

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    So the other day I asked what the Republican-lite supporters excuse for Democrats once again saving Republicans and then also voting to condemn socialism and now this.

    So what’s the excuse du jour for supporting fascism? Literally voting to punish speech here, what’s the excuse?

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      I mean, don’t vote for them…

      But not voting for anyone else with a D by their name because of these asshats, is just going to let these asshats take over the party.

      Most Americans don’t get to vote in any election that has any of them on a ballot.

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      I’m guessing it’s not about fascist ideology, and more about those AIPAC paid vacations they’ve already packed their luggage for. Doesn’t change that they are a piece of shit, only if they have corn or peanuts.

      Okay - I just made myself gag.

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          So people who refused to get up and leave (vote) when the Nazis barged in and took their seat at the table are just as culpable then.

          Good to know.

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            Ah, I see you choose to be obtuse and dense as a fruit cake.

            You mean the people who refused to get up and leave and then voted for fascism are just as culpable? Yes.

            You mean a leadership that will do fuck all to punish these Republican-lite assholes for literally voting for Nazi policies are just as culpable. Yes.

            The other members who left the table and voted no on this issue. No. For now.

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      I mean, mine’s up there and in general most hate that but he’s still far better than a Republican in his spot.

      Hopefully next time we have a primary challenger worth voting for because his challenger voted for trump. Yeah…

      So I’ll put up with him for another two years because while his Israel bullshit sucks it’s the better of the two options in almost any other issue on the table.

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        And when does the whole “still better than nothing” stop being a viable option when you’re still marching toward fascism with no meaningful resistance from the supposed opposition?

        Honestly it’s past time to stop voting for these Republican-lite, fascist enablers.

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          I would appreciate it if you didn’t spout advice that, if followed accelerates my nation’s descent into fascism. Thanks.

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            I would appreciate it if you didn’t vote for fascists that, if followed continues to accelerate my nation’s decent into fascism. Thanks.

            Vote better in the primaries next time.

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              I would appreciate it if you didn’t vote for fascists

              Yeah I’m gonna have to stop you right there.

              Vote better in the primaries next time.

              Literally not possible for me to have voted better than I did in the Democratic primary but thanks for the “advice”

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          And vote for whom? Republicans LOVE third party candidates because they tend to take more votes from democratic candidates. Run as an independent that is against the state of Israel and AIPAC will come in and fire over 30mil to your opponent and likely end your campaign in most states.

          We do see more people running as or adjacent to the DSA so we will see how it turns out.

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            They really don’t like third party candidates actually. It’s a tossup on whether it hurts or helps them. If they had it their way, it would only be two parties.

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              That they don’t side with them on other things. The news cycle keeps everyone only thinking about and upset with the last 3 days or so and wipes anything but the most major events that came before. Get rightfully pissed about this, but apathy towards the process because you don’t immediately get what you want instead of incremental change is how we end up alternating between moderate to centrist democrats after a republican majority and republicans after a moderate democratic majority when apathetic voters stay home.

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            That’s where you’d have to have a coordinated protest vote to be able to focus the message of why you’re doing the protest vote, otherwise it’s an exercise in futility and just the Republican won.

            As much as I disagree with the Michigan Abandon voters at the time, still do to a degree mostly due to the whining afterwards, that focused, poignant, abstained really had a outside impact even when overall it did nothing to the overall state election. I think it’s something that really did push progressives forward in this latest primary and why that 30 million fell flat.

            I’ll keep looking forward to the next batch of primaries and how progressives and the DSA move forward.

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          Sorry but that’s truly a moronic response. Because he sucks in this area I should let his truly worse Republican win?

          Sure, trump beating kamala means everything is so much better now huh…

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            The truly moronic response is the dumbass Republican-lite members who continue to vote the same repeat fascist enabling assholes in the Democratic primary, forcing the rest of us to choose between two fucking fascist every god damn November.

            No thanks, tired of your Republican-lite bullshit than keeps slow walking us right into fascism. I’d much rather see a good coordinated protest vote like those Abandon voters in Michigan.

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          It’s never not a viable option. Voting takes a whole five minutes. There’s literally no excuse to not participate and minimize damage. Whether you decide to do more after that is what this should influence, not whether you vote. If you choose to not vote then you’re just a useful idiot.

          Abstaining is propaganda pushed by Republicans. I don’t know if you actually believe the message you’re pushing or if you just bought the bullshit they sold you, but if you actually believe it then you’re only harming your own cause. There’s a reason this message gets spread so much, and it’s because it’s paid for. The only thing abstaining does is makes you feel superior while, in reality, you accomplish nothing.

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            And you’re the useful idiot that Republican-lite love. Vote blue no matter who, never think about changing the status quo, never hold them accountable for their actions. Just keep on swimming. They love their moderate do nothing useful idiots.

            And abstaining from voting as a form of protest is a time honored tradition. But sure go ahead and provide proof that Republicans are pushing abstaining from voting. They’re pushing propaganda about the security of voting to enact laws curtailing the right to vote, plenty of evidence for that. Honestly, you sound like conspiracy theory Republican with your bought and paid message speil, going to blame it on George Soros next?

            As far as you state abstaining/protest voting does nothing, I believe it does depending on how it’s done. We’ve certainly seen how it has changed politics with Ross Perot and how it lead to MAGA. We’ve seen how it affected things recently with Dearborn abandon voters and how their stance has accelerated saying fuck AIPAC.

            No thanks to your moderate paradise of slow walking fascism, I’ll consider acceleration and live with the consequences sooner rather than later.

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                  Not voting is the second best thing Republicans want next to voting Republican.

                  Choosing to not vote is still a choice. A choice with identical results to voting R. Wax poetic about useless Dems being Republican-Lite all you want, Rs are still worse.

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          Allowing yourself to be manipulated by a shithead in hopes of getting rid of them later is generally preferable to shooting yourself in the foot and ending up with an even bigger shithead

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      Easy, even the worst Democrat is still better than every Republican. Sure a little while ago 8 DNC out of 212 voted to condemn socialism, but do you know how many Republicans refused to condemn fascism in a November 2025 vote?

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        There it is! The desperate bullshit of the Republican-lite. It’s better to slowly get to the fascist state than quickly getting to the fascist state. It’s not about the voting for fascism, it’s about the journey. And look, there’s that whole weak-ass whataboutism I’ve come to know and love, the buttery males of the moderate democrat that MLK warned us about.

        We’re not talking about the inconsequential bullshit, performative condemning socialism and who gives two fucks about Republicans, who are fascist, didn’t condemn fascism. Scorpions were scorping, oh noes! We’re talking about 33 god damn horrible Republican-lite assholes that literally voted for letting the government stifling free speech they don’t like, a hall mark of a fascist regime.

        Absolutely pathetic.

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          who gives two fucks about Republicans, who are fascist, didn’t condemn fascism.

          People such as Democrats and myself who oppose fascism, unlike you.

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            You must be fucking stupid to say they support fascism just because they have a different opinion on how to defeat it. Fuck your dumb fuck ass for that absolutely smooth brain take.

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              I think we have enough data from the last 250 years to conclusively say the only method of opposing the conservative party is voting for the progressive party.

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            Top notch job opposing fascism by LITERALLY voting for fascism.

            With those actions, you’ll surely ensure that fascism won’t take hold.

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      Upset that my rep, Auchincloss is. I knew he would be.

      Really I’m more upset that he won by 50 points.

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    These are fucking traitors and they should be … and feathered like we used to do in the good old days. And then some