cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/51862311

One Trump voter issued a tear-filled video regretting his decision to vote for the president after his brother, who served with U.S. special forces, died while in Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

In a video posted to social media, Naseer Paktyawal tearfully recalled his brother’s service to the country and the moment that ICE “kidnapped” him in front of his son, Imrin. ABC News initially posted the video.

“I saw two cars unmarked. Seven, eight people jump out of those cars,” Paktyawal said. “One on the driver’s side, one on the back of his car, and grabbed him from his seat and put a handcuff on him.”

Mohammad Nazeer Paktyawal’s son, Imrin, was also featured in the video and recalled witnessing his father’s arrest. “I was standing there, and then they came and just take him,” the boy said.

Imrin added that he was “standing there” as the agents hauled his father away. “I was like, just don’t take him, please,” Imrin recalled.

According to Paktyawal, he later received a call from an ICE facility. “I thought they were going to release him back,” Imrin said.

“He said, ‘Are you, Naseer?’ That’s me,” Paktyawal said. “Your brother Mohamed Nasir Paktyawal passed away this morning and his body is laying down in a parking lot in the hospital.”

“My first vote was for this president, and I regret it, and I’m gonna regret it for the rest of my life,” he added. “Because of me, because of my voting, He got arrested, and he lost his life. And I’m never going to forgive myself for that.”

CNN reported that he was taken by ICE agents outside of his Dallas apartment and died less than a day after being in ICE custody. His family said that Mohammad had no known health conditions and had been seeking asylum in the U.S. since his arrival in 2021.

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      Stephen Colbert has a bit on this. I really do feel for my fellow human beings, but some swam in shit and wondered why they got sick. Compassion can only go so far.

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      You’re no better if all you do is mock the ones who lost something❤️‍🩹. Just saying try being a bit more empathetic.

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        Ya guys, show some support for the people who’ll fucking send you to concentration camp for the lols when it actually backfires. It’s really hard on them!

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        The only people who were “tricked” by Trump were the hateful and stupid. He learned a lesson, sure, but it was not a difficult one to learn and yet he it took this to finally make him figure it out.

        And like most of them, he still won’t truly learn why what he did was bad and will likely do it again.

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        try being a bit more empathetic.

        He and his ilk actively, deliberately, knowingly wanted fascism and they got it. And now they’re paying for it, but so are we. And so is the rest of the world. And my capacity for empathy only extends so far.

        Fuck this guy. He deserves everything he gets. The only person I feel sorry for in this entire story is his deceased brother.

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        He doesn’t actually say he’s going to vote differently though. It’s implied, he probably intends it to be implied, but there’s a good chance he hasn’t magically become less ‘conservative’.

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        I will be as empathetic as they are, which is to say, they can lick my ball sweat to cool their tongues in hell…

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        If you wave a weapon around with your finger on the trigger and kill someone. Have all the remorse afterwards that you want. No one owes you empathy. The family? Yes.

        This is a much bigger problem of course. That people vote being so misinformed in the first place. That are media has so collapsed that people can be so misinformed in the first place. That our government has so collapsed that it didn’t lock up and disqualify this man from ever running again. All of this happened and everyone watched. But so many people just let it pass like it was nothing.

        Allowing such recent history to be obscured and memory holed. If anything, not enough people are being ridiculed.

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          vote being so misinformed

          I’m sorry but no. Not in this case.

          Trump is a felon. He is a convicted sex offender. He organized the Jan 6 insurrection. EVERYBODY knew those things. Even the most simple-minded Bible-thumping redneck who voted for Trump deliberately voted for a guy who did things that run contrary to basic Christian moral values.

          Ignorance and misunderstanding are not valid excuses in the case of Trump: the guy was very publicly awful, and it was not difficult to understand the sort of man he was and the sort of things he did.

          Those who voted for this shit WANTED this shit. It very much wasn’t a mistake on their part.

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      Little do some ice agents realize that they are not what is considered “caucasian” by other ice agents or their handlers. After all the people rounded up in the first year or 3 those ice agents will also get deported etc. Happened during WWII. There were Jewish people that turned in friends and family to go to the camps or ratted once in the camps. They were later sent to the camps once their job was done. They were called Kapos.

      Oh so you think you are rich? You are safe and can buy your way out. Ummm nope. It’s oh you are rich? Good, let’s make note of their name so we can clean out their accounts and take all their belongings after we send them to the camps also.

      This again was also done during WWII.

      No one is safe.

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    his body is laying down in a parking lot in the hospital.”

    So basically, he died from the ICE “custody” likely in a George Floyd style murder, and the murderers likely brought him to a hospital parking lot and dumped his body on the ground to avoid answering any questions.

    The Trump voter got the day he voted for, but I certainly don’t take any pleasure. It’s not clear his brother voted for Trump [edit: he’s an asylum-seeker, so presumably not able to vote] and it’s a tragedy either way. I just feel a little more dead inside reading this. I guess there’s a limit to schadenfreude.

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      They voted in the Nazis, so it is difficult to empathize with them, or to even give them the smallest of sympathies. But my base humanist desires just won’t allow me to laugh at powerless people when they are crushed by the might of an authoritarian state. These people were duped by a psychopathic narcissist masquerading as a firebrand populist. That would have never happened if the democrats hadn’t abandoned the working class and ceded the populist ground to them in the first place.

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    I wonder how much the “manosphere” influenced their vote for the pedophile-in-chief.

    I mean, did these people not see all the Karens with their “Mass Deportation Now” and “Send Them Back” signs?

    What did they think those signs were about, after all? Did they think these Karens were really going to make a distinction? Did they think those that are the most ecstatic about this kind of thing, like Stephen Miller, would?

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      The Right Wing Propaganda machine convinced non-white cis people it was going to be violent criminals that were going to be deported.

      The racists knew it was going to be everyone.

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      Loomer said “54 million out” or something like that, that’s not just illegals, that’s every Latino in the country, citizen or not.

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        I think Loomer has brain damage or something, but Jigsaw should probably know that if they were to actually go that hard, that Jews would be targeted by that point.

        They almost always do. Doesn’t matter if she considers herself one of the “good ones”.

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    Demonizing voters for what they voted for based on lies and targeted ads is what makes them stick to this very devil. Y’all have to welcome people if you want change.

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      Here is the thing. We all got fed the lies the propaganda.

      And we made a choice.

      Vote to be openly racist and bigoted and side with a psychopath.

      Or not.

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        The propaganda wasn’t even that fucking good!! He’s a fucking FELON SEX OFFENDER THAT TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT.

        No amount of fucking propaganda should EVER overturn that if you have two functioning brain cells.

        Fuck all triple Trumpers and the horse they rode in on.

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          I’m from the Midwest. Rural areas

          People seemed to think that because he was rich, it must mean he’s smart and God loves him. Why else would he be rich ?

          And many told me they genuinely believed we needed a smart rich business man to get this country back on track of being rich. So they could be richer.

          It’s this shallow idea that if someone is rich. They must deserve it. And know what they are going. And will make the rest of us rich if we just follow along.

          That and they didn’t like that they couldn’t say what they wanted in the work place or in public about their bigoted views. They felt that just wasn’t fair.

          They should be able to say sexist and racist things because everyone knows it’s all true.

          (Their opinions not mine).

          This information was from people planning to vote from him before the election. I didn’t care to talk to anyone about it afterwards.

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      They voted for someone because they liked how he bullied leftists and liberals.

      Political Leaders aren’t just strong men or tacticians or business men.

      They are also role models, and diplomats.

      Do bullies make good role models? Do bullies make good diplomats?

      Maybe vote to help people instead of voting to hurt people, and then you won’t be surprised by the guy you voted for turning out to be an asshole.

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      We’ve been trying to be patient for decades. Go be welcoming if you have the patience left. At some point if you don’t cut the rope you’ll both be dragged off the cliff.

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      Nope. They were/are willfully ignorant. They’ve been told time and time again that they were being fooled/taken advantage of, but most of them don’t care. This is exactly what they want. I have 0 sympathy or empathy for people who voted for Trump three fucking times. They aren’t fooled at that point. They welcome fascism. Fuck 'em.

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      No, those people exposed their true natures, and now we KNOW they are corrupt, treasonous, racist, pedophiles. If they get their way, they will kill millions of us with glee. I don’t see why we should welcome sick, evil people like that into our tent, knowing they’ll turn on us first chance they get.

      Nope, they need to be examples of what happens to you when you try to destroy our country.

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      Nope. Anyone dumb enough to fall for MAGA’s blatant, obvious lies and immorality deserves their consequences, full stop. That ship sailed a long, long time ago.

      None of this “can’t we all just get along” horseshit. Fuck that. MAGA can and should be shamed back into the shadows where they belong.

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        Real world means real people. Real people includes tons of people who have made mistakes and have regrets. You guys are the political equivalent of 19 year olds who are certain they are right and don’t know what its like to either make a big mistake or have family make mistakes and try and move past it.

        Should we just execute all current and former trump supporters in the street? They aren’t just going to dissappear if trump leaves office. We need a pathway to citizenship for immigrants, and a pathway to redemption for idiots.

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          People who voted trump in 2016? Sure. People who voted trump again in 2020 and/or 2024? Fuck 'em.

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          In college I was a 9/11 conspiracy believer. Thought the implications of Loose Change were all true. Explosive charges put in the building beforehand, etc. Even wrote articles about it in the school paper.

          I also took a philosophy course on critical thinking.

          Not long after, I saw the cracks in the theories and now know better.

          I made mistakes and had regret and now I’m a lot older and wiser.

          So I know intimately what it’s like to get sucked into a belief emotionally as opposed to factually.

          I say that so I can wholeheartedly say to you, fuck that. MAGA is utter poison. The literal worst that humanity has on offer. The only MAGA I’ll tolerate in my life is a MAGA that spends the rest of their lives dedicated to allyship for gay/trans people, fighting climate change, and so on. That’s for even a chance at redemption.

          Honestly…fuck anyone who can see how things have gone in the last 10 years and think it’s the fucking left that must be tolerant.

          Fuuuuuuuck that.

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      Disapointing to see a simple truth downvoted.

      A certain % of people are vulnerable to the grift of fascism. Scorning them is like laughing at someone who lost their retirement funds to a crypto-scam. Those of us lucky enough to be able to see it for what it is should welcome all the victims of fascism.

      Trump-voting victims of trump and their stories are powerful weapons we can use against this regime and its wealthy collaborators.

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        Except we all warned them it was a scam. Showed them how the scam worked, and showed them the other people the scam had tricked. And they STILL voted for the scam. Zero sympathy for this idiot. (Do feel bad for his dead brother, tho.)

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          Except we all warned them it was a scam

          I wish it worked that way, but that’s just not how the human organism is. Mostly we don’t accept information coming from outside our identity group, especially when it undermines our worldview. Almost everyone is like that.

          Showing people that they could be accepted by a different identity group is a vital precursor to them changing how they see themselves. Shedding the old identity is necessary before a change of beliefs and ideas about the world.

          If you show people they have no chance for community outside of trump supporters, they’ll continue to support fascism. Show them there is an out, and our numbers will swell as the reality of fascism undermines the lies their community believes.

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    You don’t care because he voted for Trump, I don’t care because he fought in Afghanistan. We’re not the same.