• bradinutah@thelemmy.club
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    Old Sleep Don is in a lose-lose situation here. If Dementia Don changes his mind and shows up, then the smart black woman will chew him up and spit him out because he’s no match for her, not even close. If Drowsy Don doesn’t show up, Harris can emphasize in every answer what a yellow-bellied chicken he is. Harris has outclassed him. He should give up and drop out, but his narcissistic weaknesses and crazy weirdness will force him to plow deeper into lame loser territory. Everyone get out and vote BLUE!

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      Calling him a yellow-bellied chicken is disrespectful to chickens. He’s a spineless draft-dodging coward.

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      My money’s on him using the phrase “nasty woman”

      The real mystery is whether or not a candidate is gonna call another candidate a “bitch” during a live debate

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        If they manage to goad Trump into a live debate he’s going to say something worse than “bitch”.

        Trump not debating is just as much his handlers terrified of what he might say out loud to a woman of colour “not respecting him” and telling him he can’t, as it is Trump being a coward.

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      He’s just planning to push the “Rigged Election” line. Between his obvious insistence that the votes were rigged and now his inevitable claims that “They even had the debate without me,” all of his shitty energy is going to be channeled into fabricating a casus belli for his next attempted Insurrection.

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        It would be very funny to see them try to J6 when there’s an actual defensive perimeter set up with no orders to fuck around and let them freely roam the capital.

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          I think a lot of people are forgetting about this. Part of why J6 even got off the ground is because the POTUS and various other officials were complicit. Not so this time.

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        “They even had the debate without me,”

        Make it public and clear ahead of time when and where the debate is, and what the rules are. When he doesn’t show just ask Kamala the questions, and when it’s Trump’s turn repeat that he has chosen not to attend but if he shows up he’ll be brought on stage immediately for the rest of the debate.

        Yes, he’s going to lie about it, but anyone who blindly believes his lies won’t be reached anyway.

        Afterwards he’ll probably try to have his own private “debate” on Faux news, which is where the clear public information ahead of time matters. So that if Trump “invites Kamala” but tries to impose unfair rules it is easily called out.

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      “And now I’ll hand that same question to my opponent - who I forgot isn’t even here, so I guess he’s too cowardly to answer the question on live TV.”

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        The fuck are you on about? Where did the person you’re responding to say Trump was Asexual? Are you basing this off the word Narcissist? You do realize thats a mental diagnosis that has nothing to do with sexuality right?

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          Oh, they meant Trump has a psychosocial disability? They’re insulting a right wing politician using an ableist slur that serves to increase stigma against a vulnerable population?

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            Nah man, fuck enabling Narcissists. Dealing with Narcissists is a nightmare enough without giving them an easy shield to hide behind almost TAILORED to their disability in a way that they’ll never have to learn skills to overcome their incredibly damaging and harmful behaviours

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              You don’t overcome a lifelong disability. You learn to live with it and work around it. You think all people with NPD are abusers. What, you think neurodivergence is cured when a person learns mindfulness? No, even if they are 100% on top of their mental health, they still have a disability. They are still targeted by the slur you’re using.

              You need to provide a path for people with NPD to recover, by believing that someone can be healthy, happy, and safe to be around and still have the disability. Because if you don’t believe it, how do you expect them to believe it? And if they don’t believe they can get better and be treated better, how can they possibly try?

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                The difference with narcissism compared to other disabilities is an uncontrolled narcissist WILL fuck up MANY peoples lives, and while it sucks that it is indeed a person with a disability, I care more for the people who cared about the narcissist that the narcissist will eventually throw under the bus than I care about a single narcissist. Narcissism is a socially dangerous disability, and coddling them will make them even more dangerous

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                You need to provide a path for people with NPD to recover, by believing that someone can be healthy, happy, and safe to be around and still have the disability.

                Okay, but you don’t have to provide them a path to be President of a fucking country.

                Providing a path for people with disability to have a healthy happy life does not mean providing a path for a quadraplageic to compete in the pole vault, a pedophile to work in children’s beauty pageants, or a narcissist to be President.

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    Oh hey the Democrats are actually acting like they want to fucking win for once this election.

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      Never forget that about one week ago everybody was telling us “Suck it up. Biden will be the candidate. There’s no chance he’ll drop out.” Biden bowed to the pressure because people were calling their senators about this.

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    It’s especially amusing that Trump is reduced to a sniveling ball of cowardice by someone the Republicans keep trying to characterize as a “DEI hire.”

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    They won’t do it, but it would be baller to set it up like a debate, and have the moderator prompt the empty Trump lecturn and have the camera hold on it for 5-10 seconds each time. It would effectively just be a Kamala campaign interview, but with a bit of shade casting between each question.

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      Everyone forgets but trump dropped out of the town hall debate with Biden in 2020. Biden actually showed up and just did the townhall by himself. He came off pretty well but godamn did he look like Jeff Dunham’s puppet Walter because they had him squinting up at a mezzanine of questioners with all the lights in his eyes.

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      Quite weird. Maybe it’s because it would be past his bedtime? He IS the oldest candidate to ever run

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        Hey, to be fair- he’s a busy guy. He has a lot of things going on. Maybe he’s planning to sexually assault someone that day. Or defraud investors. Or defraud banks. Or defraud campaign fund contributors. Or defraud a charity. Or start an insurrection. Or try to pressure a state government to overturn an election. Or try to blackmail a foreign government into producing dirt on his political opponent, or maybe he’s cheating on his wife. Or stealing government documents. Or selling government secrets to our enemies….

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    Absolutely. Dew it and give people your policy vs Project 2025.

    Shit. Bring a Venn diagram or two and some belly laughs.

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    It almost has to be Alec Baldwin doing Trump at the no-show debate. Recent complications aside, his impression has always been the definitive one.

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      I feel like there’s be some ethical, possibly legal, problem with presenting an imposter as an opponent at an official debate. It’s a bad precedent. Besides, Baldwin comes with too much baggage right now

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        Besides, Baldwin Trump comes with too much baggage right now

        Really? baggage is what makes him worse than Trump?

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          I didn’t say he was worse than Trump, just that running a shoddy film production that culminated in him fatally shooting someone doesn’t make him a good associate of a presidential candidate

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            I would argue that 34 felony counts doesn’t make Trump a good presidential candidate, but that didn’t stop him. What’s Alec Baldwin gonna do that will stop him from running at this point??

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              I don’t think anyone here is going to dispute that. Just that Harris doesn’t need to associate herself with Baldwin

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        Sure there would be trouble if they honestly and seriously tried to get him to present himself as the real Trump. Parody however is free and clear.

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          There are FEC rules about debates:

          "The debate must include at least two candidates and must be structured so that it does not promote or advance one candidate over another. (FEC.gov)

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            They should just have her on SNL sending multiple trumps at once. Probably at least Baldwin and James Austin Johnson.

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    They need to do what BBC comedy show did one week when a politician guest didn’t turn up and replace him with tub of lard.

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      Part of the joke is how the debate process has been entirely hijacked by the parties themselves. News networks used to host these events, now they just get filming rights. The League of Women Voters used to present a neutral venue, but the parties went behind the organization’s back to set demands more appealing to the candidates.

      Trump refusing to participate in any kind of debate is just the latest in a long history of hostage-negotiation style organizing. I suspect they’ll end up on stage some time before November, after enough horse trading has taken place. But it’ll be so canned and superficial as to hardly matter.

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      I could see that helping Trump’s case.

      His base would be arguing that he was just being his stoic self by not responding.

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    She should just be unfailingly chipper, start calling him “old man” all the time, and framing everything around his insecurities.

    “How they danglin’ Old Man?” “Let the women speak, Gramps.” “This country’s too big for those tiny hands, Old Man.” “Step aside and go yell at a cloud.” “Shouldn’t you be lying about your golf scores somewhere?”

    That’s always his plan of attack, so you KNOW it works on him. Mockery and dismissal will have him weeping with frustrated confusion. We’ve already seen the best he’s got is “No, YOU are.”

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      lol you’re actually suggesting a presidential candidate insult the other’s genitals? Yeah, let’s all be 11 years old now.

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          The closest even TRUMP, piece-of-shit-manbaby-extraordinaire, has gotten to this to my knowledge is when he referred to Megyn Kelly’s vagina as her “whatever”. So no I don’t agree this is “where we have been for a decade”.

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        That would mean speaking a language he understands. Being civil and taking the high road allows him to bulldoze right in. Visibly dismissing him as any kind of serious contender removes his fangs.

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    i wonder which would be more entertaining… him being there or not

    i would hope shed play clips of his policies (hehe) from his own mouth at his rallies

    … just realized how sad it is i used the word ‘entertaining’… these things now seem far from informational

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    This is what they should do. Show up to a “debate”, give Trump time to show up, start after a token amount of time has passed, and then just start answering the questions that the moderators ask with no need for a rebuttal. It turns from a debate into a televised town hall style presentation. Don’t forget to interject that her opponent was too afraid to answer these questions at every opportunity.