• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    Do we have a time machine? No? Then we can’t make a better choice for primary than him anymore. That’s it.

    Is he better than Susan Collins?

    That’s the vote. A or B. Decide which, between those two options only you’d hate the least, and vote the vote.

    Is he imperfect? Yes. But now he’s only competing against Ms Collins.

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        That’s fair, but we’re actively living the consequences of not voting for harm reduction when we had the chance in 2024. I’m so fucking sick of this. We can’t afford to ignore history or reality anymore.

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          Trump and the DNC themselves are the fruits of accepting the argument of “harm reduction” for long enough.

          Guess what, it’s always this election that we need to support an ‘electabe candidate’ standing for nothing while promoting conservative and nationalist values, and always the next where we’ll surely be able to put pressure on the Democratic party to field a candidate that actually wants to change things. You know, the type they like to fight and slander at every turn otherwise.

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        Not as depressing as what happens if everyone who is informed enough to have meaningful opinions refuses to participate rather than make a choice.

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      I’m not from there so my opinion is worthless but—

      I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER EVER vote for someone with a Nazi tattoo. I don’t give a fuck if he says he’s reformed. The fact he that was a choice they made literally proves they are not fit for office. Yall get what you deserve with these fucking people.

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        I hate this braindead take people keep repeating, without considering it. In politics, for whatever reason, changing your mind is one of the worse offenses you can make. It’s “flip-flopping” and this is supposed to be bad.

        Fuck that. I want someone who can ingest new information and changes their beliefs based on that. People changing their opinions is actually good.

        He has talked about his past, if you care. He’s now one of the few people who want to reduce military spending. He’s talked about the military not actually being good for him. Does this sound like a fascist to you? Yeah, he was a stupid kid who joined the military for a sense of community at one point. We’ve all made mistakes though. He no longer holds the same beliefs, and is potentially stronger in that than people who never had the same experience.

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        Yes, instead of the formerly chud-brained person who changed their mind and did the work to improve, you would rather vote for the current Nazi who is clever enough to hide their nature by not having a tattoo.

        You absolute muppet.

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          I know this is such a wild take. “He has a Nazi tatto” so does SECDEF. The whole admin is Nazis doing nazi shit. At least this guy wants to prosecute the Nazis.

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        My best of best friend got sucked into 4chan for a minute when they were a very young adult. Realized the error of their ways, and changed. Is now my best friend. Is now a compassionate loving and kind human, to all.

        Sometimes, seeing something for what it is first hand, can fuel the fire for true change.

        With your logic, I should not be friends with this person because over a decade ago they were sucked into a horrible line of thinking. I should just write them off and shame them. Id rather recognize that they saw how the propaganda machine was working on them, how they were able to overcome it and work on themselves, and now hold a voice on how others can do the same to prevent it further growing.

        Thats all I can think about when yall say this shit. If I apply this thinking to my friend, they wouldnt be my friend.

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          Did he also get the popular 4chan slogan “Ni**erfa**ot” tattooed on him and then keep it for two decades of his good person era? And then lie and say “I had no idea those were degrading words, by golly”?

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        These days I have to assume these posts are by feds or Russian plants. He was a Marine, if you’ve never spent time around them let me tell you, they promote a culture of killers and respect effective killers. SS imagery was as common as “Back to Back World War Champs” imagery.

        The left needs killers.

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          Exactly.

          You need people who aren’t perfect, but are extremely driven.

          Will they make mistakes?

          Yep.

          … that’s how people work.

          What’s pretty damn uncommon is someone who makes a big mistake, actually realizes it, admits it, and fights against it, at least partially out of a sense of avenging their own prior mistakes.

          You gonna have a lot of trouble stopping a person with a well placed grudge against elements of their former self.

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          No, I’m pretty sure this one’s going to platinum. Everyone’s pretty much sick as Susan Collins and all she has are the hardcore MAGA. She can’t even find real people to run her campaign ads.

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        We keep voting for the lesser evil and then act suprised when candidates keep being evil.

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          Maybe if non-evil people ran in primaries, and people showed up to vote for them, we’d get to vote for something else. Have you considered running for office, or canvassing for good primary candidates?

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            I have but I’m a bad public speaker. I do political organizing in real life, including helping run a recurring mutual aid distribution, and that seems a more valuable use of my time than a quixotic vanity challenge.

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              Your mutual aid does nothing in the face of federal legislation. And the destruction of social safety that we’ve watched over the last 18 months.

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                The striking workers our strike kitchens feed disagree. The unhoused we give clothes to disagree. The tenant unions we support disagree.

                When I want opinions on the real life organizing I do in my community, I’ll ask the other real life organizers in my community and the community I serve, not some random internet stranger.

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                  like throwing a bucket of water into an ocean of suffering lmao. I appreciate the work you do. Seems like you do it because you’re a self righteous prick and not because you actually want to help people.

                  This comment reminds me of my friend who was fine getting rid of USAID because he thought his church mission trips were more important than the national efforts to fight hunger and disease around the world. It’s the most republican point of view in existence. Keep doing good work, maybe work on the actual spirit of your charity, and quantifying your reach compared to the reach of an entire nation.

                  Like idk you’ve left me with a weird combination of admiration and irritation. Ur perspective is too narcissistic but the work you do is good!