• Yuccagnocchiyaki@lemmy.world
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    This shows that they aren’t concerned about what’s coming and are just rewriting history.

    It will be interesting to see how much more weird shit people will believe by 2028 if the human race makes it that long

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      There is a sincere and legitimate argument that the Watergate burglars deliberately took a dive to throw Nixon under the bus. He’d already pissed off both the CIA and FBI at this point, and many within his own party were turning on him due to his unpopularity.

      Trump’s not the guy to make this argument, of course. But it does get into the Cold War politics of the era and Nixon’s Third Way strategy of detente for the benefit of his millionaire allies.

      The Cold Warriors would eventually hijack the federal government entirely through Reagan/Bush in '80 and again via Bush Jr in '00. But back in the 60s/70s there was still a meaningful divide between business goons and military maniacs.

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    Of course because this is the pressing issue of the new millennium. Everyone sitting around going man Nixon really got the short end of the stick.

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    Conservatives still see absolutely nothing at all wrong with Nixon’s behavior. They even glorify it in their music and their political commentary. Cheating in elections and spying on American citizens is completely fine in their eyes (as long as it’s conservatives doing it).

    It’s almost like conservatives are pure evil and should be completely excluded from normal society.

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    Nixon was the beginning of the right-wing coup against America. Roger Ailes (the Fox News aka Unofficial Propaganda Network guy) was Nixon’s media aide. Redid his image from his 1960 loss. Key to the coup.

    It’s interesting that they’re choosing to rehabilitate him now. It’s a weird card to play.

    If you believe, as I do, that fascist movements are more or less a forest fire, and that “grievances” are the fuel for that fire, then “rehab Nixon” is really “mine the Nixon issue for grievance fuel.”

    And if they’re down to playing this card, they’re running low on fuel.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      Nixon was the beginning of the right-wing coup against America.

      I read him more as the end of popular right-wing governance. Reagan (and Carter, via Volcker) began the slide into unpopular corporate politics.

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      They want to portray impeached presidents as being unfairly attacked, in order to make the cult leader look less bad.

      It won’t work because Dear Leader will do bad things faster than they can excuse him.

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      I don’t disagree Nixon was huge but I think it goes from before that.

      I personally really think it started directly at the start with the creation of the political parties, something Washington foresaw but also the establishment of America by the wealthy slave owning elite made this direction inevitable. But we could argue a lot about that.

      Andrew Johnson’s presidency and the assassination of Lincoln left scars that never healed and created the mould that I think the conservative base still stems from. Ever heard that quote “the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires” I really think there’s a weirdo psychic hole these people experienced without even being fully aware. A lot of them come from former slave owning rich families and that underlying knowledge they used to have wealth did something to them.

      You can also look at the wannabe coup against FDR, the Business Plot, rich fucks basically wanted to overthrow FDR.

      Those three things to me really set the groundwork and then marches in Allen Dulles and his CIA. In a conversation with Charles de Gaulle, JFK admitted he didn’t have control over the intelligence apparatus which was plotting to assassinate de Gaulle.

      Then marches in Nixon and not soon after Reagan. The culture divide from the dawn of America, the humiliated and now destitute former slave owners with generational anger, the tycoons and their confidence to plot and peel away at democracy, a compromised intelligence apparatus with a black budget likely stemming from drug and human trafficking which they are in charge of investigating.

      Suddenly the whole scene is set. The wealthy get their Epsteins, their cocaine, the means to hide it, the political pawns to support it and an ignorant, desperate base to use as their voting bloc. Gerrymandering only makes it all too easy especially with the broken representation system where smaller populations literally have more voting weight.

      Government transparency, wealth distribution and strong social safety nets to reinforce education and healthcare, ranked voting, an end to gerrymandering and a heavy blow to how votes matter are, to me, the first steps to start fixing some of this shit.

      I agree they’re running low on fuel. But a cornered rat and all that.

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        Imagine the changes if we could end gerrymandering, and make the house truly representative population wise as it was meant to be. It’s not some magic bullet that would solve everything, but it would help set the path forward.

        Alas, the Senate intentionally does not provide equal representation and skews to more power for smaller states, so that would be a harder fix I think between the three.

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    Can’t tell if this is sourced by tRump’s fear/vanity, or Peter Theil’s malice. Trump is pro-crime, but not cogent. Peter Theil is running everything.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    LOL, I’ve been saying for years and years that cons have a deep, simmering resentment about Nixon. I’d hear old assholes - think the parents of boomers - bitching about Nixon getting what they thought was a raw deal, because “liberal media”.

    I cannot tell you how many extremist right wingers and reactionary centrists would try to deny what I was saying.

    And here we have it…people that were not even alive back then are still holding a grudge about it, like “JD” “Vance”.

    Who GAF about the fact that Nixon definitely was involved in these crimes and taped himself covering it up, it was The Deep State™, ROTFLMAO.

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      Nixon showed up nationally as Eiseinhower’s VP, which was a MIC sponsored ticket.

      And the Military Industrial Complex is the clay from which the DeepState automatron is made.

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      Who GAF about the fact that Nixon definitely was involved in these crimes and taped himself covering it up, it was The Deep State™

      Nixon used the southern strategy to make an appeal to racists to restore The Good Ole’ Boy Network which is how people in power or aspire to be in power think the world is supposed to work. He got elected and could then start “fixing” “things.” His impeachment and removal stepping down was a very public example of someone not in the good ole’ boy system disrupted the power structure. Inevitably people bought their way into that system and his removal wiped out the “investments” they made. There’s probably some feeling that the Deep State stole their money, and they want reprecussions for the theft.

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    If he can clean Nixon, people will stop comparing how much more of a fucking criminal he is in comparison.

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      No, Nixon’s far worse than Trump and whoever believes otherwise has no Idea what kind of stuff he’s done outside of America.

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        Do you have any idea the kind of stuff trump has done outside of America?

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          Only reason Americans think Trump’s worse is because Trump’s been inflicting pain to America and the west far more than any other president has. Nixon supported genocide in Bangladesh and had nukes pointed towards India because they were trying to liberate Bangladesh, and also was the reason for rise of Pol pot in Cambodia.

          People who say Trump’s worse than Nixon also think Watergate’s the worst thing Nixon did in his career.

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    Fine, “delegitimize” the prosecutors and “clear” Nixon (he was never actually prosecuted due to Ford’s pardon). We’ll expand the supreme court, who will rule that because he was “cleared”, the pardon is null and void. Further, they’ll rule that because he was never prosecuted, double jeopardy doesn’t apply.

    Then we can appoint a special prosecutor and convene a new grand jury to go after him and all the co-conspirators new and old for real this time. Dig up that rotten corpse and we’ll make the trial of Richard Nixon part of Reconstruction 2.0.

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    In other news the Trump administration announces the dismantlement of the DOJ as all crime is now legal. Hoorah!