Eighteen percent believe there is “a covert government effort” for the pop icon to help President Biden win re-election, according to a Monmouth University survey.
Why would they need a covert operation? It’s already well known she’s favors the Democrats and hates Trump. Why the need for a conspiracy layer to it? I’m sure the Biden team would be thrilled if she endorsed him, but that’s not “a covert government effort”. It’s so stupid.
Anything to make it sound nefarious, because to Republican voters, everyone is as dishonest, tribal, and ammoral as they are.
This is all Fox “News” and other conservative outlets do all day every day, take the news and add sinister innuendo to it. If Biden were doing a state visit to the UK, Fox would almost certainly say “Biden flees overseas to avoid American’s scrutiny of his administration’s failures” or the like. If he had that state visit planned but canceled it due to some urgent matter, the headline would be “Biden cancels state visit. Health concerns? What’s he hiding?”
Republicans basically spin any positive or neutral information about their many enemies, everyone outside their in-group, as an attack on them. Republicans have no empathy, so of course the sun moon and stars all revolve around them in their view.
They think they are the real ones and that any opposition is hate. Rather than, ya know, feeling sorry for them.
Yeah but the needed to covertly rig football games to make Taylor Swift popular. Because nobody heard of Taylor Swift before a few months ago, right?
Fun times… Learning 1 in 5 of your fellow citizens has shit for brains.
it was 1 in 3 last time i looked at a fox news poll
And these are the same people who are questioning Biden’s faculties?
Biden’s faculties are questionable. Trump’s are, as well. I worry that Biden will not be up to the task, but I also think he’s our best chance of beating Trump.
We need to beat Trump not because he is forgetful or senile, but because he is a treasonous bigot who would (for the second time) seize as much power and money for himself as he possibly can while selling state secrets to foreign intelligence agencies. He’s also a rapist, a liar, a thief, a charletain, a narcissist, and a petulant, violent piece of shit. He cannot be President again. He must go to prison.
Besides the occasional gaffe and speech impediment please tell me what Biden facilities are questionable.
Bindens been a pretty damn good president as far as I can tell. He inherited incredible amounts of disfunction and an economy that was predicted to enter a huge recession and yet he turned the ship around. His speech gaffs are explained by his childhood stutter that he has worked very hard to resolve.
He’s 20 years past “retirement” age in a high stress, high responsibility position: it’s good to be questioning if he’s up to the job. That said Trump’s mental and psychical failings are much more concerning and that’s totally ignoring the whole racist, fascist thing.
Yeah, but if Biden has to resign, he has Kamala as backup. If Trump becomes president and resigns due to mental issues, God knows what awful human we’ll be stuck with.
I’m sure Ivanka would do just fine
/s
Apparently her and Jared want nothing to do with Trump’s administration if he wins, they haven’t been seen near him since leaving the white House too if I’m recalling correctly.
The Saudis made Jared richer, I wonder what strings that $2 billion had attached to it.
it is good, but all i need to do is watch him do his job to know he is up to it. a thousand people saying “well, maybe he’s not” doesn’t change what i see.
Don’t forget misogynist!
bingo. it’s just righting propaganda that is disturbingly potent.
John Stewart highlighted a few:
Somebody said today that John Stewart was funnier before he got wrinkles…
See how that works?
No, he really didn’t p9int to diminished B8den facilities
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He’s human like the rest of us and we all degrade over time. I don’t gamble but would bet the future of the country that we’re still on the “able to be POTUS” side of the curve rather than the “filling my pockets with cottage cheese because my brain is rotting in my skull” stage. Doesn’t make him my ideal choice for many reasons not directly related to his age but I’ll happily vote for Biden this November.
Additional note because this is the internet and we're allowed to (maybe even supposed to) be pedantic here:
Difference between “faculty” and “facility” since the comment you replied to used one and you’d used another. They’re similar but not the same. I could also be falling into one of these traps.
Yet you still lack an answer to my question. The best you can come up with is “he’s old” therefore lacking in some way. You can’t be specific because there are no specifics.
Correct, I have not identified the things I see as his flaws since I think they don’t interfere with his ability to do the job. Also not the person you’d replied to before.
I think he’s showing more signs of dementia than anyone wants to admit, but my greatest concern is his lack of leadership. We need progressive voices making persuasive arguments and shouting down the narcissism and bigotry coming from moderates.
Biden is not that. He’s spent more time in politics on the wrong side of history than the right one, and even at his best he has never been one to stand on principle and demand action. If he did wake up one day and decide to start fighting for future generations, he’d be laughably bad at it.
His memory, his wit, his gravitas, his voice, his authority, all of it is tied together, and all of it suffers with every gaffe or lapse.
Still no specifics. What are those signs of dementia?
Forgetfulness, stammering, awkward pauses, mood swings, and if you didn’t see all of those in his recent press conference, you should watch it again.
Your imagination…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCy_PFvfhRs
I tried to find an unedited version of his most recent statement, but for some reason it just shows a podium for 8 and a half minutes. The statement begins at 8:32. Watch that, and then honestly tell me you don’t see it.
there aren’t any so you won’t get an answer.
i agree. it’s why would prefer bernie (also old but i don’t care about that) or elizabeth sanders. both of them willing and able to take on “the system” but especially bernie. biden has done much better than id expected, but he’s not bold in term erament and he’s no socialist like bernie. that said, he’s also not senile and man, i’m tire of people mouthng propaganda about it with no evidence.
Bernie has endorsed Biden. I’d love to vote for Bernie, but he isn’t running. Biden is our best option.
i’ve seen on evidence of biden having questionable faculties. has he tripped? yeah. have you ever done that? yeah. he also has a life long speech impediment. that has zip to do with how sharp his mind is. i go by actions and he’s gotten more done for more people than possibly any president in my lifetime. he responds to current events quickly and on point (tho i don’t agree with him on everything, but so what?) alll ive heard to support otherwise is just that, people saying it. and i first saw it in right wing propaganda.
The overarching point needs to shift to which ADMINISTRATION will work toward helping America, instead of destroying democracy.
The President is merely a figurehead.
a figurehead who chooses a cabinet and sets the tone…
Yes, this is my point…
It’s much worse than that. Trump can’t be president again because he will quite possibly be the last president thr US will ever have, at least until he dies of cheeseburger overdose.
our best chance of beating Trump.
Our best chance? Best by which standard?
How about “only chance”?
by the standard of who’s actually running. there are for sure better folks but they aren’t running.
yes. because that’s part of the same propaganda. in for a penny, in for a pound.
Exact same people who stormed the Capitol
if you watch at video, a lady who went to prison for that is the only one he interviewed who woke up to how dumb it was.
Im reading this as: Nearly 1 in 5 people will reliably vote for Trump
Good: Trump only has 1/5 of people fooled and there is hope
Bad: 1/5 peoples live would be improved by lobotomy
Im reading this as: Nearly 1 in 5 people will reliably vote for Trump
You’re discounting the number of RFK Jr voters and Sovereign Citizen “Voting is just a trick to get you to create joinder” folks in this mix. Also, the guaranteed number of chucklefuck respondents who reply “Yes, and that’s good actually”.
Good: Trump only has 1/5 of people fooled and there is hope
Plenty of Trump support has nothing to do with QAnon-tier witch hunts. I’ve got Trump neighbors who are entirely in it because they think he’ll be good for the Houston O&G economy. Its the “Climate Change is a hoax and only Trump will protect our jobs” folks plus the “Illegal Immigrants are going to rape my daughter and hot box my son with the dankest Chinese fentanyl” folks who are the backbone of the campaign.
The “Taylor Swift is a 12-Dimensional Psychic Parasite Channeling the Spirit Ghost of Joseph Stalin” crowd are merely the most exotic and lurid supporters.
Was Texas always this bad?
YMMV. There’s definitely parts of the state that haven’t been driving insane by drive-time talk radio and Baptist ministers screaming for the blood of migrant day laborers. But we’re also talking about a place that churned out D. C. Stephenson, Bruce Alger, and Rick Perry. The ratfuckery runs deep and isn’t particularly new.
I’ll just say that Texas is a land of contrasts.
Also bad you only 1 in 8 to win the presidency
This just in: one in five americans are stupid.
We all lived through COVID, so we should already know this.
Death cults are one of the few problems that tend to solve themselves
yes but not only for those who are part of them. and there’s no timeline either.
20% is definitely a lowball estimate.
I usually hear “30% of americans will believe anything” so the quality of the conspiracy must be quite low
It’s much higher than that. This is the side effect of giving idiots access to social media as a platform to spread their stupidity.
case in point…numbers: they can be hard
If you think about it, 50% of people are dumber than average
That’s a sizable under-count.
So is the conspiracy that she’s being coerced? Because she’s a billionaire in the land of legal political bribery, so she has the means to tell our politicians what to do far more than the other way around. She’s allowed to have and to express a political opinion, just like any other random person.
You ever notice everything and everyone Republicans don’t like is a conspiracy against them?
“OW! Stubbed my toe! God damned wall corner is a leftist plot to injure me so I can’t vote for the fuhrer!”
Sorry, the soft serve machine is being cleaned right now.
“Did Brandon get to you?! Who sent you to deprive me of soft serve?! Fucking Pelosi?!”
Devil’s avocado here, but it must be nice to go through life with nothing ever being your own fault. There’s always a convenient plot against you, and you’d be a billionaire running a casino on the moon if it weren’t for {insert scapegoat here}.
“we’re whalers on the moon, we carry a harpoon…”
Damn it posting those lyrics should be just as frowned on as goatse. I’m going to have that song stuck in my head for hours!
{insert scapegoat here}
Ooh I know this one! Children in poverty getting subsidized school lunches instead of going hungry like they deserve to for being poor!
No no no, you misunderstand, we’re just solving the childhood obesity epidemic by not giving children any more food
Because she’s a billionaire in the land of legal political bribery, so she has the means to tell our politicians what to do far more than the other way around.
Yes, but don’t you see? She’s a woman, and therefore needs to be told what to do and think by the super smart and totally handsome male politicians. /s
The funniest bit about this Taylor Swift thing if you think about it is that Modern Republicans love the negative attention they get for all of their hateful causes, they literally try to make people outside their in-group hate them for their own amusement. They welcome the rest of America’s disgust of them as a badge of honor. It’s in their rhetoric, threatening “Give me an excuse to shoot somebody” door signs, and “fuck your feelings” bumper stickers.
They’re blowing a microchip over Taylor because hatred is their brand, positive popularity is something they’ve always shunned and devalued, and now their ENEMIES have most of the popular figures they drove away, leaving them with… well… kid rock.
They want to be hated, and they want to win, at the same time. So it’s literally offensive and not fair to them, and anything not fair to them is a “conspiracy,” that social popularity is relevant in an election. 😂
“Blowing a microchip” is a beautiful way to put it.
Of course it’s Pelosi, she can’t let anyone else get their grubby paws on her precious ice cream! /s
If there is a conspiracy happening to stop these idiots from further footgunning the country, where do I sign up? Are there tryouts?
There’s some people who are highly suggestible. Like to the point it’s arguably a disability.
There was an interview with Trump supporters that captured one that other day that’s worth a look to understand what’s going on:
https://youtu.be/Ud3btbISggA?t=06m08s
You can watch as the person interviewing him about falling for scams over and over jokingly tells him to walk off in a given direction - and then the dude just starts to, until he realizes his car is in the other direction.
I think that’s kind of misleading.
It looks to me more like he is just looking in that direction (even if he does take a step or two). He was more asking/saying, well why should I go that way when my car is this way. Not, oh shit, my car is actually this way.
If you watch the entire interview with him, I don’t think it’s at all misleading to portray him as highly suggestible.
The dude falls over himself agreeing with whichever way the wind blows in an interview about how he keeps being taken advantage of by scams.
In that broader context, him shuffling off several steps in the direction some guy jokingly told him to head off in really shouldn’t be discounted with a parenthetical.
TIL at least 1 in 5 people ate paint chips as a child
What is the conspiracy exactly? The link has a pay wall for me.
Keeping those details vague is intentional. The purveyors of such conspiracy theories know that the worst thing they can ever do is make a clear falsifiable statement.
Something to do with rigging football games to make Taylor swift popular (because she wasn’t popular already, I guess?) so she could endorse Biden so he can get re-elected.
But I’m kinda more interested in the one where she’s a vampire.
They thought she was going to endorse Biden at the end of the Super Bowl and that the White House had rigged the game for the Chiefs to win in order to maximize the spectacle and coverage.
I mean… She endorsed him last time around so I don’t know why it should be a secret for anyone really. But even then, I can’t see why anyone would change their vote, duento a singer or idol
She is a self proclaimed democrat. For her to announce support for Biden is like announcing that tomorrow is Friday. We already fucking know, dude.
The flaw in your reasoning is that you’re using Google. Stupid people don’t research things, so of course you’re not going to find anything.
I’m Canadian, and every time I hear a stat like this I think of the following quote:
“Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt.” -Pierre Trudeau to Richard Nixon
In 2020 39% of people believed the “deep state” was working against Trump.
So I guess this is good news sort of?
Written another way: “At least 1 in 5 Americans are exposed to unreasonable amounts of dangerous and persuasive propaganda.”
I prefer:
“At least 1 in 5 Americans have a critical thinking deficiency.”
Just call it Fox News
What part of any of these conspiracies are persuasive?
the part that makes you feel like a crusader and an insider.
Even 1/3 of the ususal 30% dumbass population doesn’t believe this
1 in 5 people suck
Well, of course it’s real. The 49ers are from one of the most liberal areas in the US. So, yeah they were fine with taking a loss if it means Biden’s pawn can help his agenda. /s
