President Biden said he is “not confident at all” that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025 if former President Donald Trump is defeated.

He means what he says. We don’t take him seriously. He means it. All the stuff about 'If we lose, there’ll be a bloodbath, it’ll have been a stolen [election],'” Mr. Biden told CBS News chief election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa in his first sit-down interview since announcing he was dropping out of the 2024 presidential race and endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. The interview will air on “CBS News Sunday Morning” on Sunday, Aug. 11.

Look what they’re trying to do now in the local election districts where people count the votes,” said Mr. Biden. Repeating a familiar maxim about elections and democracy, the president said, “You can’t love your country only when you win.”

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    Maybe we should have given harsher punishments to the people who tried doing that the first time around?

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    I don’t know, I think it’s pretty unreasonable to assume Trump will attempt another coup. What, does he have a coup for one special? /s

    I’m glad Biden’s calling this shit out now, and hope they’ve got a plan when a few dozen Arizona counties refuse to certify the results.

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      One saving grace is this time, it ain’t the diaper in Chief calling the shots. Biden won’t hesitate to call the national guard if need be.

      That being said, i think the violence is gonna happen at State capitals this time… I hope I’m wrong.

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        I think you’re right. I honestly think Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc should probably have the national guard in place the night before.

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      “Average American president attempts 0.004 coups per year” factoid actually just a statistical error. Average American president attempts 0 coups per year. Traitors Donal, who dyes face orange & attempts over 0.25 coups each year, is an outlier adn should not have been counted.

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    Hell, i’m not confident there’d be a peaceful transfer of power if he wins

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    The transfer of power from Biden to Harris should be peaceful because Trump isn’t involved in it.

    2021 wasn’t peaceful only because Trump still had power. If he has no power, you shut that shit down and it’s peaceful.

    “I want a permit to protest the counting of votes!”

    (Checks history) “Yeah, permit denied.”

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    We all know Trump won’t accept the results. He didn’t in 2020, and in 2016 he claimed it was still rigged against him even when he won.

    It’s really weird when you think about it.

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    If only he had access to the largest police and surveillance apparatus in the history of ever. Maybe he could, y’know, prevent the inevitable bullshit and bloodletting.

    Trumps lies about 2020 were such outrageous bullshit anyway, there wasn’t a single solitary shred of a molecule of truth in any of it. ZERO TOLERANCE, ZERO PATIENCE for that fucking guy and his inevitable bullshit parade.

    Fool me once . . . shame on . . . shame on you . . fool me twice . . Y- . . Y’can’t get fooled again.

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    Maybe if we had an Attorney-General who did things other than try to ensure he gets into nice country clubs we’d do something about this.

    Too bad.

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    See, this is how smart it was Biden not running again.

    I completely forgot he existed, and has just been chugging along doing president things.

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      not to mention he flubbed even this question. he said if he wins first, then corrected himself to say loses. I’m so glad he’s not on the ticket anymore.

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    I love all the closet right wingers thinking some fat ass country loving civilians with guns is going to overtake a country by itself.

    The only reason anything happened last time is that agent orange was facilitating the insurrection from the inside. Now its just a bunch of idiots who maybe have guns.

    So… America?

    Whatever, just get the military ready in case they try.

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      I appreciate the nonchalance but the help agent orange offered from the inside was calling off some guards for a little bit and mostly just not making a speech telling his fans to calm down. The fact is that January 6th was a pretty disorganized protest that turned into a riot due to a handful of instigators and what we discovered is that the capitol building is not routinely well protected and only avoided riots like this because they hadn’t happened.

      Which is a good thing. Public institutions should be kept safe because they serve the people well enough that no one wants to take them over. Not because they employ an overwhelming police force to keep the public out. (The original intent was that citizens would be able to just walk around most of these buildings if they wanted to see the government functioning, imagine that eh?)

      Now, obviously, DC is going to be on lockdown during inauguration day (as it should be) with a lot more military/police presence. But my point is that if an actually semi-organized militia had been there on Jan 6th with just a few more pistols and some designated leaders and organizers, they would have easily made it into the capitol even if trump had actually done everything to stop them. They would have been massacred in the resulting conflict as the US military sent its full force at them ofc but it would have been a much more consequential day.

      This isn’t me going to bat for anyone, the right wing militias are pitiful both in numbers and training. It’s just that I think the potential for danger and bloodshed when these guys finally snap and make their desperate bid for attention will be a little more violent than I see people seem to think.

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        You know, during the Baltimore riot, the rioters who were destroying shit, killed a few people, etc all were content to riot. Up until the APC’s and the military showed up, it stopped within minutes. Source: I saw it happen.

        Once you see what a Humvee and APC tank squadron looks like looks like, your shitty AR15 isn’t going to make you feel strong. What are you going to do, randomly shoot into a crowd of other Trump idiots? Rush the whitehouse with guns? Who will be in there this time?

        What if they got inside and it was just the army standing inside? What then? Are they randomly going to shoot at the army? Whats the game plan, because that would be a first.

        You have to think that this time we know, and with preparation it won’t be an issue. Just be smart about it, because we already know about the last coup attempt.

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            I think you’re not considering what a bunch of cowardly giant man babies they all are.

            Remember who when one of them got shot they started yelling “Active shooter!” when it was a fucking SS agent or cop or something who fired the shot?

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      That’s wishful thinking, they have put up far more infrastructure around state election counting than any previous election, the shady shit with batches of votes going missing from 20 years ago is nothing compared to what they’re doing nowadays. They will do anything to shift vote counting and then cast doubt about the legitimacy enough that they can send it to the supreme court again. It happened before with Bush v Gore with much less shady dealing and a much less stacked supreme court than they have set up now.

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    This is probably in prep for shutting shit down. If you start warning people now, it’ll be “I told you they were gonna wild out, and we’re handling it” not “release the rabid dogs on the opposing party”.

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    as is anyone who was alive and voting in the last election. You would have to be brain dead to not worry about what that clown may do.

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    The headline makes it sound like he’s not gonna let Kamala take his place… 🤔

    As for his actual words, Joe’s right, Trump’s not going down easy. The good news is that Donnie isn’t in power now, and won’t be in charge of the Federal response to whatever unfolds.

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      It actually gets really complicated if the damage he does is at the state or local level. A “coup” in the US capital is probably no longer a possibility, but he could cause a lot of chaos if he got a couple dozen scattered enclaves of lawless resistance to lawful voting procedures, and they didn’t back down. Are we gonna send national troops to half a dozen different states to make them obey? Is that even constitutionally feasible?

      Anywhere we have the slightest doubt about that, we have to act now–Biden has to act now–to guarantee good-faith election management and fallbacks in case it doesn’t happen.

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      Right. If dementia donnie’s right-wing chuds want to try some shit, I hope Biden does some Dark Brandoning on their dumb asses. And then Kamala needs to put someone in charge who will not dither one bit when it comes to going after them legally after that.

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      While I agree, I would prefer them not giving it air time. Or better making fun of those suggesting violence and making them look foolish.

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    It doesn’t matter. The vp has the ability to arbitrarily change the election outcome. RIGHT DONNIE?