• Sunflier@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    At least we provide our citizens with basic things like health insurance as a right.

    -All Norway has to say.

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      8 hours ago

      As a Norwegian, I would never call it health “insurance”. It’s just part of the social security that we pay taxes for.

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        Well, the state is acting as a single payer for all health care its populace needs. The money is not going from you directly to the service provider. An example of that would be you paying someone to rotate your tires. Rather, the state is providing payment to the doctor for services provided to treat your health care needs. Thus, the state is acting as an insurer whose premium is the taxes you pay. You just get a whole lot of extras for the premium you pay (like road work, disaster relief, penalizing criminality, etc.). That is a textbook example of insurance.

        *Edit: for those of you who doubt what I say, I ask you to look at history to as an illustration. When the US was last trying to adopt universal care under Obama, who was it that dumped the buckets of money on advertising to water it down to a mere marketplace from Romneycare? It was the private insurance companies. What was the main reform that got adopted in that in lieu of state coverage? That the insurance companies could no longer deny people with pre-existing conditions.

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          5 hours ago

          So all my taxes are going to insurance somehow?

          Public transport insurance?

          Public school insurance?

          Public road insurance?

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            4 hours ago

            Did you not see where I said this?

            You just get a whole lot of extras for the premium you pay (like road work, disaster relief, penalizing criminality, etc.).

            But, yeah, at a conceptual level, society is ultimately a safety net (synonym for insurance) when compared to the individualism from living pre-stone age.

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    20 hours ago

    Norway of all places. The country with some of the best ratings for quality of life, education, safety and nearly every other metric.

    The reason, I’ll bet, is that people who are happy and well cared for are more difficult to exploit, which is the only metric his psychopathic brain cares about.

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      It’s because they didn’t give him a Nobel. Narcissists are simple creatures.

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      7 hours ago

      No, it is just because he didn’t get the Nobel Peace prize. He doesn’t care about that other stuff in the slightest, because it is not about him.

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      I visited Norway a couple years ago. It was a god damn fairy tail. Waterfalls and fjords everywhere. Pristine rivers, mountains and forests. Clean air and water. Amazing restaurants and public transportation. Everyone spoke English. I would live there…easy. My only complaint is it is a bit expensive but the quality of live trade off would be worth it.

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        15 hours ago

        Everyone spoke English.

        I get what you’re trying to say but saying this feels wrong. It just bothers me when Anglophones present this as some measure other nations should strive for.

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          I spent 12 most learning Norwegian. I never had to use it once. My grandfather spoke it, but was a bit stubborn so we never learned it. I was more stating basically everyone in Norway speaks the English, which is nice for many international travelers as it is a common denominator for communication. Norwegian is not very useful as a second or third language, but I did enjoy it.

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            If you were to move to Norway, knowing how to speak Norwegian would be socially beneficial. While just about every Norwegian can carry a conversation in English, it’s mentally taxing enough that side conversations between Norwegians are done in Norwegian soon enough. And then it’s only a matter of time until the main conversation is done partly in Norwegian.

            I’ve seen a lot of international students feel left out, not because the Norwegians want to exclude them, but because it’s less socialy draining to talk in the same language you think in.

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        Imagine being so dumb you think you deserve a peace prize for funding a genocide, starting wars and having a lawless Gestapo kidnapping people and dragging them to concentration camps for minor civil infractions

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          8 hours ago

          having a lawless Gestapo kidnapping people and dragging them to concentration camps for minor civil infractions not being white

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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      18 hours ago

      I doubt donnie dumbass even thought about it that hard or knows any of that.

      He is just a man-baby throwing more ketchup on the wall because the black man got a prize and he didn’t. He will just never get over so many things - Obama having two terms and getting a prize that he didn’t being fairly high on the list.

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    15 hours ago

    I can’t wait until we don’t have to see his tantrums everywhere. One day everyone will forget all about him.

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      15 hours ago

      We had better not forget about him. Just like we had better not forget about all of the other monstrous people in our history and the monstrous things that they’ve done.

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    18 hours ago

    I volunteer to go there and face the shitty conditions. … please?

    (let me go back in there, and face the peril!)

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      I for one feel very satisfied that Trump hates us. I take it as a huge compliment.

      Nothing has grossed me out more than when Trump years ago said he wanted more Norwegian immigrants and less immigrants from “shithole countries.”

      To quote Rick & Morty: “Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer!”

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    20 hours ago

    I wish any reporter would ask Trump a simple question like, “Can you say a number between 500 and 1000?” or “What is the capital of the United States?” or “Name a country in North America.”

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    20 hours ago

    "**“He knows very well that the Nobel committee is independent,” **

    I don’t think he is familiar with that concept.

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      19 hours ago

      Honestly I was expecting Vance to already make his move by now. But I think he’s just so unlikeable that he can’t convince anyone else to side with him.

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        18 hours ago

        he has no chance of magats rubbing off on him and gaining their support if he tries to grab power for himself.

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          17 hours ago

          Pretty sure that’s why Vance was chosen. Remember that Mike ‘mother wouldn’t approve’ Pence wasn’t subservient enough for trump and went against him in the 11th hour.